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	<title>Comments on: Supreme Court One Step Closer To Allowing Strip Searches In Schools</title>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What they need to do is get rid of their Zero Tolerance Policy bullshit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they need to do is get rid of their Zero Tolerance Policy bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tfr,

Although it doesn&#039;t involve criminal charges, that&#039;s pretty much what Savanna&#039;s suit against the school district is all about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tfr,</p>
<p>Although it doesn&#8217;t involve criminal charges, that&#8217;s pretty much what Savanna&#8217;s suit against the school district is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Akston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/04/22/supreme-court-one-step-closer-to-allowing-strip-searches-in-schools/#comment-65724</link>
		<dc:creator>Akston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems with each passing year that our culture becomes ever more hysterical about safety.  Cradle to grave security at all costs.  The result is that we end up slightly more secure in increments at a tremendous cost of liberty and civil rights.  We end up secure from everyone &lt;i&gt;except&lt;/i&gt; the agents of security, the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems with each passing year that our culture becomes ever more hysterical about safety.  Cradle to grave security at all costs.  The result is that we end up slightly more secure in increments at a tremendous cost of liberty and civil rights.  We end up secure from everyone <i>except</i> the agents of security, the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/04/22/supreme-court-one-step-closer-to-allowing-strip-searches-in-schools/#comment-65721</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize that Tinker vs. Des Moines School District was a free speech case, but Justice Fortas&#039;s words about how children do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate should apply here, too.  It&#039;s unsettling to hear this argument, and the questions of the Justices, and wonder why they can&#039;t see the forest for the trees.  This case is not about drugs (and being someone who carried Advil in her purse consistently since she was in 5th grade, I cannot see how one Tylenol pill is going to hurt), and while I respect your position, Stephen, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s even about an adult&#039;s potential sexual abuse of a minor.  I think it&#039;s about how much power we&#039;re letting the government have over our children without the presence of the parents.  Why weren&#039;t her parents called, or given the opportunity to be there during the search?  Of course, I don&#039;t agree with the search in the first place, and certainly not resulting from such flimsy &quot;evidence.&quot;

Parents already have such little say about what goes on at school, where their children spend 40 hours a week.  Why are we letting the government parent our children?  I really hope the Court can come to some kind of common sense before the opinion is written.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that Tinker vs. Des Moines School District was a free speech case, but Justice Fortas&#8217;s words about how children do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate should apply here, too.  It&#8217;s unsettling to hear this argument, and the questions of the Justices, and wonder why they can&#8217;t see the forest for the trees.  This case is not about drugs (and being someone who carried Advil in her purse consistently since she was in 5th grade, I cannot see how one Tylenol pill is going to hurt), and while I respect your position, Stephen, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even about an adult&#8217;s potential sexual abuse of a minor.  I think it&#8217;s about how much power we&#8217;re letting the government have over our children without the presence of the parents.  Why weren&#8217;t her parents called, or given the opportunity to be there during the search?  Of course, I don&#8217;t agree with the search in the first place, and certainly not resulting from such flimsy &#8220;evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Parents already have such little say about what goes on at school, where their children spend 40 hours a week.  Why are we letting the government parent our children?  I really hope the Court can come to some kind of common sense before the opinion is written.</p>
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		<title>By: tfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I said over at Below the Beltway, either charge them with or sue them for sexual assault of a minor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said over at Below the Beltway, either charge them with or sue them for sexual assault of a minor.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/04/22/supreme-court-one-step-closer-to-allowing-strip-searches-in-schools/#comment-65684</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the Christian Conservatives reading this:

Imagine this scenario.  Your 13-year-old daughter comes home from school crying.  You find out that the girl who lost the leading role in the upcoming school play to your daughter reported her to the gym teacher for sneaking some Tylenol into her clothing.  She also has minor blood smears on her clothing.

&quot;Everybody&quot; knows the teacher is a lesbian, except for school administrators and parents like you who don&#039;t hang out with these sorts of people very often (editorial note: Jesus is reported to have hung out with prostitutes).  What no one knows is that this particular lesbian is also a sexual predator.  Most aren&#039;t, but your child is the one who received the unlikely draw of the cards.

I realize that your daughter would never sneak a Sudafed, much less a Tylenol.  She&#039;s a really good girl and you have every last reason in the world to feel proud of her.

Think about how your will feel when you end up telling your daughter the following: &quot;What they did to you is horrible. It&#039;s OK, honey, though.  God will know that you are a virgin on your wedding day, even if your husband can&#039;t find that proverbial proof.&quot;

Likewise, it could be your 13-year-old son who was taken advantage of by some male perp.  They are talking about body cavity searches in reports about this case right now.

Any parent, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, who isn&#039;t pissed off about this case doesn&#039;t deserve the space I allow dead flies on my flyswatter.

As I stated before, if this had happened to one of my children, I&#039;d be writing this from jail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Christian Conservatives reading this:</p>
<p>Imagine this scenario.  Your 13-year-old daughter comes home from school crying.  You find out that the girl who lost the leading role in the upcoming school play to your daughter reported her to the gym teacher for sneaking some Tylenol into her clothing.  She also has minor blood smears on her clothing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Everybody&#8221; knows the teacher is a lesbian, except for school administrators and parents like you who don&#8217;t hang out with these sorts of people very often (editorial note: Jesus is reported to have hung out with prostitutes).  What no one knows is that this particular lesbian is also a sexual predator.  Most aren&#8217;t, but your child is the one who received the unlikely draw of the cards.</p>
<p>I realize that your daughter would never sneak a Sudafed, much less a Tylenol.  She&#8217;s a really good girl and you have every last reason in the world to feel proud of her.</p>
<p>Think about how your will feel when you end up telling your daughter the following: &#8220;What they did to you is horrible. It&#8217;s OK, honey, though.  God will know that you are a virgin on your wedding day, even if your husband can&#8217;t find that proverbial proof.&#8221;</p>
<p>Likewise, it could be your 13-year-old son who was taken advantage of by some male perp.  They are talking about body cavity searches in reports about this case right now.</p>
<p>Any parent, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, who isn&#8217;t pissed off about this case doesn&#8217;t deserve the space I allow dead flies on my flyswatter.</p>
<p>As I stated before, if this had happened to one of my children, I&#8217;d be writing this from jail.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is totally ridiculous. What a nightmare for the parent. I am interested to know what the white hous eposition is? They would have filed something as friend of the court? Do they want to give all rights to the schools at the expense of our children&#039;s rights?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is totally ridiculous. What a nightmare for the parent. I am interested to know what the white hous eposition is? They would have filed something as friend of the court? Do they want to give all rights to the schools at the expense of our children&#8217;s rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug,

I don&#039;t see how you managed to write about this today.  For the first time since 9/11, I&#039;ve been too angry to place reasonable words to my thoughts on a topic.

All I can manage to say at this moment is if that had happened to my daughter, I&#039;d be composing this message from a jail cell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you managed to write about this today.  For the first time since 9/11, I&#8217;ve been too angry to place reasonable words to my thoughts on a topic.</p>
<p>All I can manage to say at this moment is if that had happened to my daughter, I&#8217;d be composing this message from a jail cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Akston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/04/22/supreme-court-one-step-closer-to-allowing-strip-searches-in-schools/#comment-65649</link>
		<dc:creator>Akston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Changing clothes for the gym is the same as an authority figure demanding a strip search of middle school child?  Really?  Based on an accusation from another child?  Without police involvement?

Really?

So when should the Fourth Amendment finally come into the picture?

I wonder if it would effect the vote if someone accused Justice Breyer of muling Advil at his health club, and they shook out &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; boxers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing clothes for the gym is the same as an authority figure demanding a strip search of middle school child?  Really?  Based on an accusation from another child?  Without police involvement?</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>So when should the Fourth Amendment finally come into the picture?</p>
<p>I wonder if it would effect the vote if someone accused Justice Breyer of muling Advil at his health club, and they shook out <i>his</i> boxers.</p>
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		<title>By: SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a clarification that I don&#039;t recall seeing - she was required to strip to her underwear under the supervision of the school nurse, and then to pull out and shake the elastic and crotch to show nothing was stashed in them but did not actually have to remove them.  A quibble, I know - to a 13 year old girl, the end result is no doubt about the same. Just wanting to establish the facts. Presumably the school district feels justified in their actions because she was allowed to keep on her underwear.  I see little difference and to say &quot;but they change clothes for gym&quot; is no excuse.  

But to me it is utterly and totally ridiculous and appalling that school officials would have the authority to order a strip search based only on one unsupported verbal tip.  As I understand what happened, one student was caught with one pill, and she implicated another student, who then implicated this girl.  Would ANY of us submit to a strip search of this kind on such flimsy evidence, let alone allow our children to submit to it?!?  This didn&#039;t even involve any law enforcement officials, to my knowledge - this was just school officials acting on their own. 

When asked, the district&#039;s lawyer asserted that the district had the authority to do so.  One of the Justices asked if that authority even went so far as a body cavity search.  The response was that school staff weren&#039;t trained for that - which presumably means that if they HAD had training for that (God forbid!), this poor girl might have gotten the rubber-glove treatment to boot.  Truly frightening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a clarification that I don&#8217;t recall seeing &#8211; she was required to strip to her underwear under the supervision of the school nurse, and then to pull out and shake the elastic and crotch to show nothing was stashed in them but did not actually have to remove them.  A quibble, I know &#8211; to a 13 year old girl, the end result is no doubt about the same. Just wanting to establish the facts. Presumably the school district feels justified in their actions because she was allowed to keep on her underwear.  I see little difference and to say &#8220;but they change clothes for gym&#8221; is no excuse.  </p>
<p>But to me it is utterly and totally ridiculous and appalling that school officials would have the authority to order a strip search based only on one unsupported verbal tip.  As I understand what happened, one student was caught with one pill, and she implicated another student, who then implicated this girl.  Would ANY of us submit to a strip search of this kind on such flimsy evidence, let alone allow our children to submit to it?!?  This didn&#8217;t even involve any law enforcement officials, to my knowledge &#8211; this was just school officials acting on their own. </p>
<p>When asked, the district&#8217;s lawyer asserted that the district had the authority to do so.  One of the Justices asked if that authority even went so far as a body cavity search.  The response was that school staff weren&#8217;t trained for that &#8211; which presumably means that if they HAD had training for that (God forbid!), this poor girl might have gotten the rubber-glove treatment to boot.  Truly frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yes..government schools.  I just can&#039;t wait until the government controls even more areas of our lives, like all of our health care.  

That will work out quite nicely, I&#039;m sure.  

The death of common sense in this country has to do with a lot more than just the war on drugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes..government schools.  I just can&#8217;t wait until the government controls even more areas of our lives, like all of our health care.  </p>
<p>That will work out quite nicely, I&#8217;m sure.  </p>
<p>The death of common sense in this country has to do with a lot more than just the war on drugs.</p>
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