Comments on: This veteran won’t accept Janet Napolitano’s lame apology

By: David Wilson

David Wilson — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:59:20 +0000

@Jacques Porche:

What in God’s name are you talking about? Gender is a red herring. Birth rates in the US are actually quite low. The idea of a parental license is preposterous. The idea of reinstating the draft is equally preposterous and gratuitous. Of all the batshit things I’ve seen in these comments, this one takes the cake.

By: Alexander S

Alexander S — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:50:29 +0000

And just to make myself clear, Stephen, this offer is open to you as well.
I will be glad to have the press attend as well. I will choose the place, you can choose the news agency.
So John, Stephen, any of the rest. Shall we meet up and trade veteran stories?

By: Alexander S

Alexander S — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:26:12 +0000

OK Roger, are you reading this? What do you consider John Allen Muhammad to be. If you are not aware of that name, this Army veteran is also known as one of the DC snipers. But I guess you do not deem his actions to be those of a terrorist. 10 Innocent people dead for the crime of breathing. How about Timothy McVeigh? Sound familiar? No? An army veteran who is responsible for the death of 168 men, women & children. All US citizens. As stated before, I am a decently decorated veteran, I come from a long line of veterans, and I fully admit that some of the people I served with can be dangerous to themselves and their team mates. In reading your words, I suspect I would think the same of you. I would not cose to be deployed with you.
Let’s go one to one John, you and all the others who lean so far to the right you would rather fall over than look a bit to the left and attempt to see our country get back on the track of rebuilding into a strong world leader. SO to all contenders, let’s go one to one. You show me your decorations, I will show you mine. The sad thing is I fear that even though I will respect you for your time served, you would attempt to degrade me for mine, just because I do not agree with you.
So I offer all of you this challenge. If you accept, I will meet you in Arlington cemetary at a place of my choosing. You bring your DD-214, I will bring mine. Oh yah, bring and ID so I know it is your DD-214. I will do the same.
Maybe the day will end over drinks and sharing wound stories, but some how, I doubt it.

By: Jacques Porche

Jacques Porche — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:20:35 +0000

This is a “watershed” event. It has finally come to pass that through George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and now Janet Napolitano, an abscence of military service destroys a chance to address a problem using the “right words” and “right timing” to instill confidence in our U.S. government. This is the unavoidable opposite.
Janet, I know the FBI released a statement similar to this, but kept the focus on gang membership and military service as a threat to the future security of the U.S. government service. You have deviated from this and it is most disconcerting that the use of the word “Veteran” which in the past has been used with reverence and respect is now within the same sentence of the term “possible terrorists.”
Some might say, “Well the truth hurts pal,” to which I say, we need to bring back the military draft for all women and men. I recently heard a female Human Resources Director call military veterans – “those who selected a dead-ender’s strategy” i.e., they could not go to college, nor connect with a good job, so in bad times, they elect to go in the military to maintain self-sufficiency. USA Today confirms that the US Veteran rate of unemployment is twice as high as the national average and I know why – it seems corporate America actuaries are putting out a policy of saying, “IF you bring former military into the workplace, you statistically increase the chances of workplace violence.” There’s a recruiting tool for the future. Serve you country – SCREW YOU!
That is what the U.S. military has become in the eyes and ears of the American people – a dumping ground for the dregs of society, whether or NOT it is true.
This problem has been brewing since the Viet Nam war and cessation of the military draft in 1972. Alan Greenspan’s book, the Golden Age of Turbulence, highlights ending the military draft as a “good idea.” Mr. Greenspan, you have never been more wrong. I suggest you stick to economic forecasting which is your forte and leave military matters to statesmen.
Believe it or not, Terrorism is not a “man-made” problem, it is a “woman-made” problem. I served 15 years, 9 months and 3 weeks, and did the last three years getting five surgeries and court-martialing a dyke commanding officer and frying the career of her dyke executive officer.
The Commander of the Naval Security Group, out of Ft. Meade, Maryland decided to place two lesbians in charge of a 2200 member unit of which highly sensitive “male only” operations were taking place.
The gutless male Admiral who made this decision did so NOT understanding or asking himself the question, “IF a female’s sexual orientation is predicated upon a hatred of men, and vying competitively to ‘beat them,’ how can these lesbians ever LOVE the men in which these women must earn their trust and respect to follow through with dangerous operations?”
The answer is these lesbian women can NOT earn the love and respect of these types of special “black cell” men. The truth is the current US military has turned into a “boot-licking” festival, spec-ops exempt, and the most characterless individuals are rising in the ranks and bad things, like myself court-martialing a lesbian commanding officer are happening.
I earned two Master’s degrees and completed my doctoral work in Higher Education while on active duty and was turned upon by many players to fight back and win many battles. These were chump change fights compared to attacking and destroying the careers of my Commanding and Executive Lesbian officers because I was ordered “to cease communications with Congress.”
They lost a Article 134 General Court-Martial fight, which cost her promotion but the Navy did rule in two trials, that it is ok to ORDER an enlisted man NOT to write Congress – big time fight that gave our “community” a black eye. After my Honorable Discharge, the problems I experienced continued as I put out 700 resumes for positions all over the country and as a military Veteran- -Russian linguist, who speaks 5 other languages, with 2 Master’s degrees and doctoral work, I SHOULD have been able to find a job, BUT DID NOT.
The final cut came at the Harrah School of Hospitality Administration at UNLV, when a female, who was in charge, personally was handed my resume and within 3 seconds visibly began to shake with rage as I applied for an underling “Academic Counselor” position. She read all four degrees and said, “No, no, no, you have no experience,” to which I responded “Ma’am, I have almost 20 years military service and almost 5 college degrees. I have plenty of experience.” She dismissed me and was visibly angry. I surmised later through the help of current military officers, that she was afraid I would take her job, because she probably did NOT have any formalized education and rose to her position through time in position experience.
In her American female mind, I, a retired military veteran with a high record of achievement was a threat to her job, career, money, livelihood, because higher educated personnel were coming up from the schools to apply positions and her job was not only to ensure she had one, but it seemed to destroy anyone under her who could threaten her position.
This happened in Hawaii, California and Louisiana and I realized that it was not men who were the problem – the problem is women in the work place.
Women BREED and make children out of a “emotional feeling” with no regard for economic outcome nor placement. My military service and 2nd Master’s degree focused on “Parental Licensing” which infuriated the Economics Department at the Universty of Oklahoma, but it did TRY to make the population match the number of jobs in an available free market economy. I think world peace lies in that notion.
Janet Napolitano and every American woman are part of a great breeding period of “baby boomers” in our country who came up in a male-centric system, then politicized GENDER or SEX in the 1960′s and began a low-intensity conflict against American men to achieve FEMALE-CENTRIC DOMINATION.
When one “POLITICIZES” sex, one sex has to be “right” and the other, MEN, must become “WRONG.” Women and their “new rights” came to the forefront as they took jobs from men, EXCEPT MILITARY JOBS, because those are really dangerous. There are exceptions, but NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO STAFF AN INFANTRY DIVISION, or a unit much smaller in size.
Janet speaks as a woman, who like the lady at UNLV, the lady in the UC system in Calfornia, and Rose Chang at the Hawaii Teacher’s Union, were not afraid to let me know I was “not needed.”
Without a job, facing the specter of homelessness in winter, and not able to find a job, I embarras myself with this information to tell women to STOP MAKING KIDS THAT OVERPOPULATE THE NATION! Things will get much worse if you don;t and you need look no further than Juarez, Mexico and another central American nation where there are muliple serial killers working to kill women.
I out of desperating wrote a very profane 2-page letter to the VA in Reno, Nevada and was arrested by the FBI. I was also suffering from multiple injuries (33). When all that I claimed proved out, in the pre-trial discussions, and I implicated President George W. Bush in a crime – the charges were dropped (United States vs. Jacques Porche).
The other feelings did not go away and that was there were women filling tons of jobs that are meant for American men became an unavoidable truth. There are “Women’s Studies” programs in college, but not “Men’s Studies” and this proved to me that a female-centric shift in power is and has been occurring in the colleges for some time now. The recent Title 9 debate off cannibalizing men’s sports to pay for women’s scholarships proves this as well.
I have no problem with females who are intelligent and capable of becoming doctors, lawyers and other leaders, as they have the same sense of right and wrong that men posess, but there is this “Nadya Suleman” affect out there and women are using gender as a means to discriminate and exclude men and Miss Napolitano, I must ask, would military service in your background have made you a better leader?
Would you have phrased this in such a damaging and insulting way? You can go ahead and translate that “Lone Wolf” euphemism into what it should really be in text which is “single white male.”
You can call me a racist, sexist, misinformed, etc., but the bottom line is we are either going to have a child-rearing nation of Americans with females raising our children and men going to work, or something the total opposite, which will severely hurt our ability to defend ourselves either in the business or stragetic world.
There is a 3rd choice as we can approach this from a whole new angle, in which we solve these problems from a Human Resources angle and tell the “Nadya Suleman’s” to wait for a “Parental License” which means the population has the chance to adjust to economic availability of jobs, opportunities, education, health care, etc.
The alternative is this thing I am calling “Bosnian Syndrome” in which the stronger group, which is the white males become “taxed” so heavily with “paying” for everyone else’s advantages, it leads to a natural rebellion then violence.
I do NOT want this Janet, but I do want you to read the copy of my research I placed in the hands of Representative Ron Paul. He liked it so much, he talked about Parental Licesing on the floor of the House of Representatives.
I am retired and want this to turn out peacefully with the nation staying as is, strong and paying my retirement pension. I am out of the “game” and I do not wish to return.
I am writing this with a warning, that if we do NOT evolve and get these “WOMEN PROBLEMS” under control, i.e. having kids like a salmon spraying eggs in a stream, then ejecting husbands from the home, we will ALL have a great many “bleeding” problems in the coming years. I am a buddhist now, so I am headed for Europe or someplace peaceful as talking to you women, and some of the men in my group is too tiresome and I have seen too much military crap in my life NOT to want to enjoy the rest of it.
I am exercising the call for women to use self-restraint and DO NOT have children, unless you have the funds to take care of them, and we can adjust shortages of working personnel with LEGAL IMMIGRATION!
Lone Wolves are disenfranchised “white men” and the Women’s “Movement” needs to begin discussing resource management and resource sharing with men. If your intent is to deprive American men of work and “take over,” well, I just wouldn’t even entertain the notion of “going down that path.”
I won’t stop you, as long as my check is unmolested, as I am a “dead-ender” but trust me when I say you will not like the sons-of-bitches I served with, if they do take action.
This is not a threat BUT it is a call for immediate DIPLOMACY and an ECONOMIC REVIEW OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!

By: Roger

Roger — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:30:21 +0000

Unfortunately, many of you do not realize that veterans are the backbone of this country. Without them you would be speaking German right now. The left accused George Bush of using “scare tactics” during his administration. I’m sorry but the present administration is FAR WORSE than either of the Bushes. I too am a Vietnam era disabled vet and I could give a rats azz about any other writer who “claims” to be a vet that doesn’t see the problems with Napolitano and the Obama administration. To label ANY veteran a potential terrorist is appalling. Especially in light of the “great one’s” total lack of any military experience. I would consider HIM more of a terrorist than ANY returning veteran. These people are clowns…

By: kat

kat — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:14:26 +0000

I think many people are missing the reality that war changes people. The stress of the situations our military personnel are required to handle…. changes people. Some people, in spite of the oath mentioned above, just can’t handle the situation, and honestly, who can? It’s a horrible situation to be in. In fear of your life and the lives of those working with you 24/7 for xx months. I think the point of the report was not that ALL veterans are now terrorists, but that some could become so. Have we not learned anything about helping our vets? Look at what happened to our Vietnam vets… we need to be aware that there are potential situations…. who you are before being involved in a war often is not who you are when you return. How can you be? Anyone heard of PTS syndrome? Come on, already…. can we take a look at the realities and discuss how to prepare for and help the vets?

By: Merf

Merf — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:41:39 +0000

Thank you, Ayn, marvin, and Cryos — I agree completely!

By: Ayn R. Key

Ayn R. Key — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:15:30 +0000

It is truly amazing how vile the response from the Obama youth has been. And many veterans who have forgotten that they swore to the constitution and not the person are now angry that the person is not worshipped. The author obviously remembers his oath to the constitution and makes a very valid, albeit unwelcome, point that all should heed.

By: Cryos

Cryos — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:21:15 +0000

Comment by Kent — April 27, 2009 @ 9:51 am
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Lol Kent. How many different ways are you going to try to spin your viewpoint? It looks like you reading articles from places like Huffington Post and Salon and updating your posts here after you find another liberal talking point.

First it was the naive “the reports are the same” and the “crazy gun toting” right.

Then it was Bush’s fault and Napolitano is the victim.

Finally it is the full on right wing conspiracy theory spying on left wing groups and not right wing groups as the reason no specifics are mentioned.

It’s amusing watching the blow in the wind, playdoh mentality of clueless libs who latch onto any excuse or talking point without putting much thought into it. The only lib principles are following the words of your utopian prophets such as Obama.

By: marvin berteau

marvin berteau — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:04:03 +0000

When someone says that they apologize IF their remarks were offensive to such and such – that is not a real apology. A real apology would state “I am sorry for having made those remarks”. We certainly did not see that.

That government that is close to the people (local-district) governs best. We know the people we vote for or against. This is rarely the case concerning those who serve in Washington D.C.

By: Kent

Kent — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:51:24 +0000

SouthernJames: That’s because the reports were produced under the direction of Bush. He was concerned with lefties, so he’d actually had them under surveillance. Their membership was cataloged, their phones identified – like full on investigative stuff. It is evidence they had been being watched closely for quite some time.

In contrast, there was nothing in the rightie report that could possibly point to any actual monitoring by the government. Nothing. No specific names, groups, nothing. It shows that the government has been LEAVING THE RIGHT ALONE. And until all this teabagging nonsense, it was likely to continue that way.

The FBI was asked to produce a pair of reports on the intelligence extant on both fringes. That is what I mean when I say the reports were identical – they were prepared under the same directive and with the same operational parameters: what is the current intelligence on domestic radicals?

The fact that the Right-Wing focused report was so generalized seems to show a lack of specific intelligence, not a political attack. And any way it goes … IT WAS ORDERED BY BUSH AND CREATED UNDER BUSH. How in the hell can you blame Napolitano for it’s contents?

As a N. Idaho resident who has spent hours and hours defending Randy Weaver versus some of the most obtuse left-wing assholes ever to walk the face of the planet, I’d like to observe that pretty soon the entire nation is going to be considered “leftie”. I care about my ideology, but not to the point of being a moron.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:37:45 +0000

The response to the report says far more about the current feelings on the Right than anything else. The Right is still shell-shocked from their devastating electoral losses, so they’re using anything they can to gin themselves up. Obama’s birth certificate, his supposed bow in Saudi Arabia, his overseas trips, his handling of the pirate incident, it’s all frivolous issues designed to fire up the Right.

The Bush administration actually infiltrated and monitored PEACE groups on the Left. This DHS report was commissioned by the Bush administration and merely states that right-wing extremists sometimes try to target returning veterans for recruitment, not that veterans are potential terrorists. But that reality doesn’t bring in the money and support, so it has to be spun into this paranoid nonsense.

By: Stan

Stan — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:10:12 +0000

Thank you, Stephen.

By: southernjames

southernjames — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:17:23 +0000

Kent,

“DUDE!” The leftwing report was not only NOT “identical” it wasn’t even close. Read things for yourself instead of repeating false talking points.

The left wing report gave specifics and examples. It named actual GROUPS.

The right wing extremist report (which I highly doubt ANY of the lefty commmentators here have actually read), just threw out generalities about what sort of people might be susceptible to recruitment by some (unknown, non-identified) but yet scary all the same! “right wing extremist” group.

It was obvious on its face that it reflected the fevered imagination and bias of some DC liberal govt hack. The author lumped into one big fat “rightwing extremism” category (whose adherants are “primarily hate-oriented”) a whole lot of people (tens of millions, actually) whose potential ‘threat’ to domestic tranquility is simply that they are either military veterans, and/or that they “are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority” (Oh the horrors!!); or that they may be “groups or individuals that are dedicated to a single issue such as opposition to abortion (gasp) or immigration.”

The report was boneheaded, and the timing of its release (on the eve of the Tea Parties) was even more boneheaded. All that report did was create even MORE distrust in the Feds and encourage MORE paranoia.

By: LCpl Smokey

LCpl Smokey — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:07:01 +0000

Wow, I have never seen so much liberal venom. It seems all lefties classify us vets as Timothy McVeigh. According to Napolitano we must be some sort of war lords. Yet according to Eric Holder, we are all cowards. Doesn’t that say anything about liberal thinking ? The real danger to America is Obama’s brothers, his ghettos. Where nobody even knows their own father. Breeding ground of real gangs and crime. I remember the Vietnam days, when it was a well known fact that the draft dodgers and card burners were mostly liberals who were scared S*H*I*T less they might have to go.