Comments on: The Latest Victim Of The PATRIOT Act: A 16 Year-Old Kid

By: Big Brother: Surveillance and the Patriot Act

Big Brother: Surveillance and the Patriot Act — Sun, 10 May 2009 05:36:25 +0000

[...] Sincere via The Liberty Papers (who also has video), sums it like this: In addition to incompetences like this, government law [...]

By: The Liberty Papers »Blog Archive » Ashton Lundeby Update: Less Than Meets The Eye

Fri, 08 May 2009 11:14:38 +0000

[...] uhm: A lot of Libertarians support the Patriot Act. It says so right there: “Eric Dondero said… Hey Jim,… [...]

By: uhm

uhm — Fri, 08 May 2009 02:15:00 +0000

A lot of Libertarians support the Patriot Act. It says so right there:
“Eric Dondero said…

Hey Jim, a lot of Libertarians supported the Patriot Act too, not just Conservatives, myself included, WITH GUSTO!”
http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/2009/03/missouri-state-troopers-now-profiling.html

By: Akston

Akston — Thu, 07 May 2009 20:41:10 +0000

The bill is over 300 pages of text and changes to existing code. Here's a link to the full text. I'd bet you 100 Federal Reserve Notes not one legislator knows its full provisions. If I remember correctly, the original draft was titled "Even Teenagers Being Spoofed or Playing Pranks Are Sent to the Gulag Indefinitely without Charges or Due Process" Act, but they couldn't sell it. They finally settled for the "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism" Act, this being the phrase "USA Patriot" Act expanded into bureaucrat title speak (UaSAbPATRtIaOT). Of course, no one would have voted for it if they called it the "Putting Everyone Behind Bars Makes Them Safe" Act.

By: Aimee

Aimee — Thu, 07 May 2009 17:50:20 +0000

Kathryn, you are giving too much credit to the Congressmen and Senators in assuming they read the Act in the first place. I doubt they read it at all.

Or if they did, they picked out the parts they agreed with like going through the bible.

By: Kathryn Rebecca

Kathryn Rebecca — Thu, 07 May 2009 16:30:34 +0000

I would like to get the opinions of the Congressmen and Senators who all passed this bill (twice) on this case. I mean, they all read and understood the language of the PATRIOT Act, right? They knew the potential ramifications of giving this much unrestricted power to the federal government, right? Of course they did.

By: Tom Knighton

Tom Knighton — Thu, 07 May 2009 09:45:12 +0000

When the Patriot Act was passed, John Ashcroft promised it would only be used for terrorists. My comment at the time was “even if I believed him, what about the next guy?” However, it was used for much, much more almost immediately. Now, it seems, it’s been used for something that is, at worst, a childhood prank. Stupid? Yep. Terrorist? Not hardly.

By: J.W. Berry

J.W. Berry — Wed, 06 May 2009 20:20:44 +0000

This is maddening. We need to have the county sherrif arrest these agents and put them on trial. ever since Ruby Ridge they believe, and rightly so it would seem, that they can ignore conservatives civil rights at will. Just be prepared folks. you could be next!

By: Kristi Gilleland

Kristi Gilleland — Wed, 06 May 2009 17:34:00 +0000

It doesn’t matter what **I** think, other than as a US citizen he has a right to a trial and a lawyer, and he is getting neither. He has the right to go before a JUDGE, to have bail set, before his trial, and that right, too, has been denied him.

A JURY should find him innocent or guilty. HIS GUILT or lack there of is not my concern.

The constitution says INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

The Patriot Act should be repealed, post haste.

But what I **KNOW** is this. Currently the turn around time on computer forensics is more than 2 months for the FBI – they are trying to find something on him. How would YOU like to be held for 2 months while someone TRIES to find something on YOU?

And yes, IPs can be spoofed to make calls with VoIP.
http://www.asteriskvoipnews.com/voip_security/voip_security_scenarios_challenges_and_counter_measures.html