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	<title>Comments on: Why Collectivism &#8220;works&#8221;, but doesn&#8217;t work.</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66813</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alec, I never said &quot;self interest&quot;, I said their perceived interest and incentive.

Whatever you percieve your interest to be, whatever you value most, that is what you will act towards. If you value your family above all else, that is your interest. If you value earning money above all else, THAT is your interest. 

Even the mentally ill do so; it is simply their perception of interest that is skewed. 

Often people act in ways that seem counter to their goals; even by their own logic and reasoning. When they do so, you can bet that what they say they want, isn&#039;t what they really want; either consciously or unconsciously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec, I never said &#8220;self interest&#8221;, I said their perceived interest and incentive.</p>
<p>Whatever you percieve your interest to be, whatever you value most, that is what you will act towards. If you value your family above all else, that is your interest. If you value earning money above all else, THAT is your interest. </p>
<p>Even the mentally ill do so; it is simply their perception of interest that is skewed. </p>
<p>Often people act in ways that seem counter to their goals; even by their own logic and reasoning. When they do so, you can bet that what they say they want, isn&#8217;t what they really want; either consciously or unconsciously.</p>
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		<title>By: alec</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66803</link>
		<dc:creator>alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris: I did not call you stupid or evil.

My main problem with your argument is &quot;As I said, people will ALWAYS act in their perceived interest.&quot; Do you have scientific proof of this? Sincerely, I mean it.

I don&#039;t disagree that a large part of the human condition is manifested by elements of selfishness or greed. But I don&#039;t think that in the long-run, self-interest is every humans defining factor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: I did not call you stupid or evil.</p>
<p>My main problem with your argument is &#8220;As I said, people will ALWAYS act in their perceived interest.&#8221; Do you have scientific proof of this? Sincerely, I mean it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that a large part of the human condition is manifested by elements of selfishness or greed. But I don&#8217;t think that in the long-run, self-interest is every humans defining factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66770</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, every time I talk about how bad collectivism is, they all rush in and try and call me ignorant or stupid, or evil. 

It just amuses the hell out of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, every time I talk about how bad collectivism is, they all rush in and try and call me ignorant or stupid, or evil. </p>
<p>It just amuses the hell out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the kind words Alec!  Is your last name Baldwin? 

I&#039;ll search out your posts from this point forward in order to become enlightened! 

Love   - right back at ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words Alec!  Is your last name Baldwin? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll search out your posts from this point forward in order to become enlightened! </p>
<p>Love   &#8211; right back at ya.</p>
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		<title>By: The Path to Human Development: Capitalism or Socialism? &#124; Prose Before Hos</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66757</link>
		<dc:creator>The Path to Human Development: Capitalism or Socialism? &#124; Prose Before Hos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Social Welfare, Socialism and Healthcare, Why collectivism “works,” but doesn’t work, Why Collectivism “works”, but doesn’t work, Do current incentive structures make sense?, and Economic [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Social Welfare, Socialism and Healthcare, Why collectivism “works,” but doesn’t work, Why Collectivism “works”, but doesn’t work, Do current incentive structures make sense?, and Economic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alec</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66756</link>
		<dc:creator>alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear &#039;southernjames&#039;:

Your delusions of “common sense” wisdom stem from an unwillingness to seek information and an inability to critically analyze it. You never hesitate to offer strong opinions on subjects you don’t know a damn thing about. You think lowering taxes raises revenue. You are an idiot. You are why democracy doesn’t work.

Love,
Alec]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8216;southernjames&#8217;:</p>
<p>Your delusions of “common sense” wisdom stem from an unwillingness to seek information and an inability to critically analyze it. You never hesitate to offer strong opinions on subjects you don’t know a damn thing about. You think lowering taxes raises revenue. You are an idiot. You are why democracy doesn’t work.</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Alec</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The present power structure in Washington respectfully disagrees.  Centralized control of the economy can achieve social justice and fairness for all.  Redistribution of wealth is necessary to correct the evils of capitalistic imperialism and corporate greed, which have caused injustice and inequity over the decades and centuries.  

America must atone for its sins, too.   

At least, that&#039;s what the really really smart professors at my local college say.   And they have Phds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present power structure in Washington respectfully disagrees.  Centralized control of the economy can achieve social justice and fairness for all.  Redistribution of wealth is necessary to correct the evils of capitalistic imperialism and corporate greed, which have caused injustice and inequity over the decades and centuries.  </p>
<p>America must atone for its sins, too.   </p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s what the really really smart professors at my local college say.   And they have Phds.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66646</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[silvermine,

Well said...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>silvermine,</p>
<p>Well said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: silvermine</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/05/18/why-collectivism-works-but-doesnt-work/#comment-66643</link>
		<dc:creator>silvermine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Put more simply, &quot;Love doesn&#039;t scale&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put more simply, &#8220;Love doesn&#8217;t scale&#8221;.</p>
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