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May 20, 2009

Which is the best libertarian insult: libbieloon, libtard, or losertarian?

by Stephen Gordon

Over at The Next Right, I made the point that the GOP needs libertarians more than libertarians need the GOP.  While I went into greater detail, this sums up the key theme of the posting:

Libertarians are used to wandering in the wilderness like political nomads.  We know we’ll be called upon from time to time to act as tour guides in order to lead the Republican leadership towards some safe small-government oasis or waterhole of individual liberty.  We don’t even need maps or compasses, as the routes are permanently etched within our minds.  Being tough and hearty political travelers, another forty years in the wilderness doesn’t scare us all that much. […]

Without enough allies to fight the Democrats or even the skills to find the path to small government and individual freedom, the current Republican leadership may not be destined to forty years in the wilderness.  Without libertarian assistance, they may not even make it to the next oasis.
With or without the GOP, libertarians will somehow survive.  Can the GOP survive without libertarians?

While I included criticism of libertarians from folks like Mike Huckabee and Lindsey Graham in the posting, I didn’t expect to see Michael Medved style insults thrown into the comment section.  Here are a few gems:

  • Despite having bad things to say about him, I agree with the Huckster about the “heartless, callous, soulless” bit. Please accept the fact that we aren’t going to ever become a libertarian paradise like Somalia, and move on.
  • Libertarian bashing is deserved, long overdue. They need it!
  • Here’s the real GOP deal for LibbieLoons… if you agree with the Party’s core principles on smaller govt, lower taxes, strong natl defense and JackKemp’s Opportunity Society, come on board!  If you don’t and –like RonPaul– want to abdicate the Free World to the IslamoFascists, then take a hike or return to that land of electoral wonders and political groundswells (not), the LibbieLoon party.
  • GOP needs to put a boot to the disloyal, back-stabbing LibbieLoons and send em packing –not make the GOP over into LibbieLoonLand Part Deux.
  • I’m surprised you didn’t get the memo… it was sent to the LibbieLoon headquarters
  • Does this mean that the bloggers on thenextright.com will stop calling libertarians “libtards”?
  • lib-tards  … is an insult to LIBERALS. If you want to insult Libertarians, you call em Loser-tarians or something like that.
  • call them what they really are: LibbieLoon-atics.
  • Oh… and they have to hog-tie BobBarr and DOCTORCrazyUncleRon together and parade them through the town square as our newest VillageIdiots.
  • It’s why no one deserves the LibbieLoons and the GOP sure as heck doesn’t need ‘em.

“Losertarian” is getting pretty stale and I’m getting a bit burned out on “libtard.”  LibbieLoon seems a welcome addition to the invectives being tossed about by folks obviously incapable of reason.

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  • southernjames

    I vote for LibbieLoon. I had never heard that one, but I may use it from time to time myself – it just has a nice ring to it.

    Libtard is inaccurate because that should only properly be applied to liberals. Moonbats also works for liberals.

    Over on the right, there are quite a few to choose from. Wingnuts seems to be the one most in vogue right now.

  • http://thelibertypapers.org/ Brad Warbiany

    You see, there’s a difference. The Republicans only exist to achieve political power. If they fail to do that, they’re absolutely without purpose. Libertarians are a true ideological movement, and we’re used to not having political power.

    Republicans can become irrelevant by losing too many elections. Libertarians’ relevance is pretty consistent — unfortunately not as high as I’d like, but pretty consistent.

  • http://www.thelibertypapers.org/ Stephen Littau

    When that DHS report which labeled people like ourselves who do not trust government as “rightwing extremists” it wasn’t the “extremist” part that bothered me.

  • http://gordonunleashed.com/blog/ Stephen Gordon

    That’s good, Stephen :)

  • http://anothercitizenagainstfascism.blogspot.com Kathryn Rebecca

    I too felt affronted at being lumped into the “rightwing” category. I get a fair amount of heckling from family and friends who are diehard Republicans (a dwindling group, apparently), but I also know quite a few people who are seeing the light of libertarianism- they’re just too afraid to leave behind the Republican identity. Ah, well. Our day will come.

    Until then, I vote for LibbieLoon.

  • Jason Pye

    Yeah, LibbieLoon.

  • david t sanson

    yup – libbiloon. we’re just CCRRAAAAAZZZZEEEE about Liberty! i have no problem being labled extreamist.

  • http://thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/22/a-bit-about-kevin/ Kevin

    Libbieloon sounds fine.

    BTW: Excellent job Stephen at The Next Right. It’s nice to see the RINO establishment mentality at work and why libertarians and well…just about everyone else…rejected the Republican party.

    The RINO establishment (GOP Congressional “leadership”, Bush administration sycophants, party hacks, neo-cons, etc.) is trying to divide social conservatives, Reagan conservatives, and libertarians to try and desperately hold on to power in the GOP. That’s we’re seeing the National Council for Whatever that Cantor, Romney, et al are trying to put together; Newt running around with Bobby Jindal; Tax Hike Mike hijacking just about everything. They’re all desperate for power.

    The American people, in their wisdom rejected. The only way to defeat Obamaism and its cousin, RINOism aka neo-conservatism aka “compassionate conservatism”, is for conservatives and libertarians to work together and retake the GOP.

  • chris

    This blog blows…please add this comment to this post as an update…thanks DB!

  • http://thenextright.com/ Stephen Gordon

    Thanks, Kevin.

  • http://thenextright.com/ Stephen Gordon

    I’m leaning towards LibbieLoons, too. :)

  • http://thenextright.com/ Stephen Gordon

    Chris, bite me!

  • Akston

    Yep, Libbieloon is truly devastating. There’s just no way to way to respond to such a persuasive logical polemic. I think it may be almost as ruinous as the dreaded “You’re a big poopiehead!” How can one formulate any kind of cogent response to such a pithy statement of principle?

    I’ve tried: “So’s yer mother!”, but it simply can’t stand up to: “Wingnut!”

    Me: “But if everyone must be controlled for the ‘common good’, who will define the common good? How do we choose the controllers? How do we prevent abuse? Who will control the controllers? Isn’t this trend where nations historically run the risk of moving into totalitarian phases? Wasn’t this nation actually founded on principles of liberty?”

    Opponent: “You’re a loon.”

    Me: “A valid point, certainly, but on a more pragmatic and immediate topic, can a nation spend its way out of debt?”

    Opponent: “God, you’re such an idiot; I can’t even talk to you.”

    Me: “Well, I’m sure that goes without saying. Still, doesn’t record deficit spending in the face of declining international confidence in the dollar and the commensurate and inevitable decline in foreign investment in government instruments, coupled with the Laffer Curve and its demonstrated limitations on the effectiveness of increased taxation, coupled with the Federal Reserve monetizing that debt absent any citizen oversight inevitably create a serious risk of hyperinflation? And furthermore, if printing money and handing it out is the solution, why not print a billion per citizen? Why is Zimbabwe in such dire straits? Is money the same thing as wealth? How is wealth created?”

    Opponent: “You probably do drugs.”

    Me: “Yes. I think I need an aspirin right now, actually.”

    Hopefully, this comment does not “blow” enough for another ruthless attack by chris. I’m still grappling with the depth and perspicacity of that insightful rejoinder.

  • Akston

    …unless, of course, that chris is “Liberty Papers contributor chris”. In that case, I would have to concede the coup de grace right here and now. Fratricide is best left to the GOP :-)

  • http://thenextright.com/ Stephen Gordon

    Akson,

    I think “chris” is one of the commenters on the original posting. I can’t imagine “our” Chris saying such a thing.

  • Dan Hansen

    Akson, that dialogue you posted between “Me” and “Opponent” had me laughing while wincing at the same time. I have been watching that dialogue repeated over and over since fall of 2007.

  • uhm

    Those Social Democrats need to be told that their idol, Reagan was a libertarian. They need to stick with their statist ideological ancestors: Theodore and Franklin Loservelts. They are regressives.

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com/ beaglescout

    I am a conservative liberal, a classical liberal, a Reagan-style conservative, a Mises-reading, Say- and Bastiat-quoting economic libertarian and strict constitutionalist Catholic who is a member of the Republican Party. Remember, the Parties are defined by their members, not vice versa. The People’s Democratic Socialist party is a lost cause. The Republicans are weak and disorganized and Reagan already took them over once for principles of freedom. Why not again?

  • http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com Eric Dondero

    Tom Tancredo just came out for drug legalization.

  • http://gordonunleashed.com/blog/ Stephen Gordon

    Eric,

    If you go to the top entry right now, you will see that we know that.

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  • oilnwater

    best libertarian insult = “libertarian”

  • oilnwater

    looks like you’re editing comments, too, aren’t ya faggot?

  • oilnwater

    it’s also quite obvious seeing as how often you commented on your own post. you must be a younger person.

  • http://gordonunleashed.com/blog/ Stephen Gordon

    I’ve not edited any comments.

  • oilnwater

    you have posting privileges, you obviously have editing and user setting records privileges. look into them.

  • http://anothercitizenagainstfascism.blogspot.com Kathryn Rebecca

    Stephen,
    Are you going to take the “younger person” assumption as a compliment? What does that even mean?

  • http://gordonunleashed.com/blog/ Stephen Gordon

    Yea, I’ll take it as a compliment :)

  • john

    I prefer neoliberal imperialist subhuman.

  • eh what

    “Libbieloon” is not an epithet directed at libertarians, but at liberals. BTW, Libertarians are what ruined the GOP. Social godlessness shall lead down a dark path (which the Dems are totally pushing right now; I haven’t seen a single comment in this post directly against Dems, ain’t that funny; we don’t have a party called the Social Democrats, and Reagan wasn’t a Libertarian).

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