RSS 2.0 FeedWhich is the best libertarian insult: libbieloon, libtard, or losertarian?
by Stephen GordonOver at The Next Right, I made the point that the GOP needs libertarians more than libertarians need the GOP. While I went into greater detail, this sums up the key theme of the posting:
Libertarians are used to wandering in the wilderness like political nomads. We know we’ll be called upon from time to time to act as tour guides in order to lead the Republican leadership towards some safe small-government oasis or waterhole of individual liberty. We don’t even need maps or compasses, as the routes are permanently etched within our minds. Being tough and hearty political travelers, another forty years in the wilderness doesn’t scare us all that much. [...]
Without enough allies to fight the Democrats or even the skills to find the path to small government and individual freedom, the current Republican leadership may not be destined to forty years in the wilderness. Without libertarian assistance, they may not even make it to the next oasis.
With or without the GOP, libertarians will somehow survive. Can the GOP survive without libertarians?
While I included criticism of libertarians from folks like Mike Huckabee and Lindsey Graham in the posting, I didn’t expect to see Michael Medved style insults thrown into the comment section. Here are a few gems:
- Despite having bad things to say about him, I agree with the Huckster about the “heartless, callous, soulless” bit. Please accept the fact that we aren’t going to ever become a libertarian paradise like Somalia, and move on.
- Libertarian bashing is deserved, long overdue. They need it!
- Here’s the real GOP deal for LibbieLoons… if you agree with the Party’s core principles on smaller govt, lower taxes, strong natl defense and JackKemp’s Opportunity Society, come on board! If you don’t and –like RonPaul– want to abdicate the Free World to the IslamoFascists, then take a hike or return to that land of electoral wonders and political groundswells (not), the LibbieLoon party.
- GOP needs to put a boot to the disloyal, back-stabbing LibbieLoons and send em packing –not make the GOP over into LibbieLoonLand Part Deux.
- I’m surprised you didn’t get the memo… it was sent to the LibbieLoon headquarters
- Does this mean that the bloggers on thenextright.com will stop calling libertarians “libtards”?
- lib-tards … is an insult to LIBERALS. If you want to insult Libertarians, you call em Loser-tarians or something like that.
- call them what they really are: LibbieLoon-atics.
- Oh… and they have to hog-tie BobBarr and DOCTORCrazyUncleRon together and parade them through the town square as our newest VillageIdiots.
- It’s why no one deserves the LibbieLoons and the GOP sure as heck doesn’t need ‘em.
“Losertarian” is getting pretty stale and I’m getting a bit burned out on “libtard.” LibbieLoon seems a welcome addition to the invectives being tossed about by folks obviously incapable of reason.
I vote for LibbieLoon. I had never heard that one, but I may use it from time to time myself – it just has a nice ring to it.
Libtard is inaccurate because that should only properly be applied to liberals. Moonbats also works for liberals.
Over on the right, there are quite a few to choose from. Wingnuts seems to be the one most in vogue right now.
Comment by southernjames — May 20, 2009 @ 1:39 pmYou see, there’s a difference. The Republicans only exist to achieve political power. If they fail to do that, they’re absolutely without purpose. Libertarians are a true ideological movement, and we’re used to not having political power.
Republicans can become irrelevant by losing too many elections. Libertarians’ relevance is pretty consistent — unfortunately not as high as I’d like, but pretty consistent.
Comment by Brad Warbiany — May 20, 2009 @ 1:59 pmWhen that DHS report which labeled people like ourselves who do not trust government as “rightwing extremists” it wasn’t the “extremist” part that bothered me.
Comment by Stephen Littau — May 20, 2009 @ 2:07 pmThat’s good, Stephen :)
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 20, 2009 @ 2:14 pmI too felt affronted at being lumped into the “rightwing” category. I get a fair amount of heckling from family and friends who are diehard Republicans (a dwindling group, apparently), but I also know quite a few people who are seeing the light of libertarianism- they’re just too afraid to leave behind the Republican identity. Ah, well. Our day will come.
Until then, I vote for LibbieLoon.
Comment by Kathryn Rebecca — May 20, 2009 @ 2:20 pmYeah, LibbieLoon.
Comment by Jason Pye — May 20, 2009 @ 3:07 pmyup – libbiloon. we’re just CCRRAAAAAZZZZEEEE about Liberty! i have no problem being labled extreamist.
Comment by david t sanson — May 20, 2009 @ 4:59 pmLibbieloon sounds fine.
BTW: Excellent job Stephen at The Next Right. It’s nice to see the RINO establishment mentality at work and why libertarians and well…just about everyone else…rejected the Republican party.
The RINO establishment (GOP Congressional “leadership”, Bush administration sycophants, party hacks, neo-cons, etc.) is trying to divide social conservatives, Reagan conservatives, and libertarians to try and desperately hold on to power in the GOP. That’s we’re seeing the National Council for Whatever that Cantor, Romney, et al are trying to put together; Newt running around with Bobby Jindal; Tax Hike Mike hijacking just about everything. They’re all desperate for power.
The American people, in their wisdom rejected. The only way to defeat Obamaism and its cousin, RINOism aka neo-conservatism aka “compassionate conservatism”, is for conservatives and libertarians to work together and retake the GOP.
Comment by Kevin — May 20, 2009 @ 7:09 pmThis blog blows…please add this comment to this post as an update…thanks DB!
Comment by chris — May 20, 2009 @ 7:15 pmThanks, Kevin.
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 20, 2009 @ 7:38 pmI’m leaning towards LibbieLoons, too. :)
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 20, 2009 @ 7:38 pmChris, bite me!
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 20, 2009 @ 7:38 pmYep, Libbieloon is truly devastating. There’s just no way to way to respond to such a persuasive logical polemic. I think it may be almost as ruinous as the dreaded “You’re a big poopiehead!” How can one formulate any kind of cogent response to such a pithy statement of principle?
I’ve tried: “So’s yer mother!”, but it simply can’t stand up to: “Wingnut!”
Hopefully, this comment does not “blow” enough for another ruthless attack by chris. I’m still grappling with the depth and perspicacity of that insightful rejoinder.
Comment by Akston — May 20, 2009 @ 8:35 pm…unless, of course, that chris is “Liberty Papers contributor chris”. In that case, I would have to concede the coup de grace right here and now. Fratricide is best left to the GOP :-)
Comment by Akston — May 20, 2009 @ 8:52 pmAkson,
I think “chris” is one of the commenters on the original posting. I can’t imagine “our” Chris saying such a thing.
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 20, 2009 @ 9:04 pmAkson, that dialogue you posted between “Me” and “Opponent” had me laughing while wincing at the same time. I have been watching that dialogue repeated over and over since fall of 2007.
Comment by Dan Hansen — May 20, 2009 @ 10:54 pmThose Social Democrats need to be told that their idol, Reagan was a libertarian. They need to stick with their statist ideological ancestors: Theodore and Franklin Loservelts. They are regressives.
Comment by uhm — May 21, 2009 @ 6:31 amI am a conservative liberal, a classical liberal, a Reagan-style conservative, a Mises-reading, Say- and Bastiat-quoting economic libertarian and strict constitutionalist Catholic who is a member of the Republican Party. Remember, the Parties are defined by their members, not vice versa. The People’s Democratic Socialist party is a lost cause. The Republicans are weak and disorganized and Reagan already took them over once for principles of freedom. Why not again?
Comment by beaglescout — May 21, 2009 @ 5:10 pmTom Tancredo just came out for drug legalization.
Comment by Eric Dondero — May 21, 2009 @ 7:16 pmEric,
If you go to the top entry right now, you will see that we know that.
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 21, 2009 @ 7:18 pm[...] bookmarks tagged mike huckabee Which is the best libertarian insult: libbieloon, … saved by 1 others nusy12 bookmarked on 05/22/09 | [...]
Pingback by Pages tagged "mike huckabee" — May 22, 2009 @ 1:02 ambest libertarian insult = “libertarian”
Comment by oilnwater — May 22, 2009 @ 7:24 amlooks like you’re editing comments, too, aren’t ya faggot?
Comment by oilnwater — May 22, 2009 @ 11:40 amit’s also quite obvious seeing as how often you commented on your own post. you must be a younger person.
Comment by oilnwater — May 22, 2009 @ 11:45 amI’ve not edited any comments.
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 22, 2009 @ 11:46 amyou have posting privileges, you obviously have editing and user setting records privileges. look into them.
Comment by oilnwater — May 22, 2009 @ 12:00 pmStephen,
Comment by Kathryn Rebecca — May 22, 2009 @ 1:14 pmAre you going to take the “younger person” assumption as a compliment? What does that even mean?
Yea, I’ll take it as a compliment :)
Comment by Stephen Gordon — May 22, 2009 @ 1:48 pmI prefer neoliberal imperialist subhuman.
Comment by john — May 26, 2009 @ 10:22 am“Libbieloon” is not an epithet directed at libertarians, but at liberals. BTW, Libertarians are what ruined the GOP. Social godlessness shall lead down a dark path (which the Dems are totally pushing right now; I haven’t seen a single comment in this post directly against Dems, ain’t that funny; we don’t have a party called the Social Democrats, and Reagan wasn’t a Libertarian).
Comment by eh what — June 3, 2009 @ 12:22 am