Comments on: Point: The Tea Parties Are Ultimately Bad For Liberty http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:29:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: southernjames http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68516 southernjames Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:42 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68516 Wow, all this infighting from a crowd that, if you gather then all together, can barely fill a handful of football stadiums.

Looks like a good moment for a Rodney King quote. :)

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68515 Doug Mataconis Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:28:10 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68515 Hampden,

Ron Paul and his supporters damaged that campaign all by themselves, I had nothing to do with it.

And since when did supporting Ron Paul’s campaign for President become a libertarian litmus test ?

]]> By: Hampden http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68510 Hampden Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:11:24 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68510 Guys like Mataconis are responsible for harming Ron Paul’s campaign, with their continual irrigation of libelous statements regarding his record. No one can be wholly responsible for those who choose to associate with a political campaign. We have a pale shadow of freedom of association in this country, and because of it, the kooks, moon-bats and other pseudo-libertarians like Mataconis can associate with various groups and tar them, and their message of liberty, with their insidious presence.

]]> By: Paul Roberts http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68509 Paul Roberts Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:03:39 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68509 There will always be some ‘kooks’. Goes with the territory. At the April 15 tea party in Lansing MI, someone who tried to start an anti-obama chant was ignored by the thousands of others there and he quickly gave up. Can’t keep them away, but we can outnumber them and ignore them.

]]> By: Jim Ostrowski http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68393 Jim Ostrowski Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:31:37 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68393 The tea party movement is what’s happening now. Libertarians need to jump in and lead it, not skulk away to their famous seminars where they love to talk to each other.

We also need a plan for victory.

http://politicalclassdismissed.com/?p=7512

http://politicalclassdismissed.com/teaparty/

]]> By: Thomas Naramore http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68343 Thomas Naramore Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:47:17 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68343 Turning on the light doesn’t hurt the cockroaches, but it will certainly lead to a motivated coursr of action.

]]> By: Peter http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68329 Peter Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:51:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68329 Auditing the Fed will not do much of anything, but it is a step in the right direction. It must happen before any real changes are made to “the finacial system”.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68328 Doug Mataconis Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68328 Tom,

Auditing the Fed isn’t going to accomplish much of anything.

]]> By: Thomas Naramore http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68327 Thomas Naramore Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:56:59 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68327 100% of the shots you don’t take don’t score. This is not the time to be quoting philosophers, it is the time to be quoting Samuel Adams and Patrick Henry. Stop telling why it wont succeed and start doing your small part to fufill your duty to preserve liberty for posterity.

]]> By: Tom Rankin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68322 Tom Rankin Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:33:37 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68322 A true liberty organization is going to be focused on one main national objective. Audit the Fed.

If you do not agree with this 100% then you have home work to do. Educate yourself on who the Fed is and what they do.

A true liberty organization is going to be focused on one main state issue. State Sovereignty.

Many different Liberty Organizations all across America are talking to each other, sharing ideas,
joining each other. They are organizing this movement.

Join Us.
Get on the same page.
Hold Town Hall meetings
Get Active
Our voice will be heard.

In Liberty,
Tom Rankin
C4Lsheepdog
985/438-6798

]]> By: Mart http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68314 Mart Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:33:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68314 The article’s thesis is that these TEA Parties are really being hijacked by loonies and the GOP……. I agree, but the emphasis really needs to be placed on the GOP more than the kooks. Were there any TEA Parties before the socilaist was elected???? Didn’t this bailout garbage begin under “W”? Both wars were passed by both sides of both Houses. The deficits and debt are the products of most state governments and those of us that are screaming, seem to be ignored. What can we do? “Informing” is not working, as handouts are multiplying, and our grandchildren’s lives and liberties, and chances to pursue their own happinesses are withering away. What to do????

]]> By: Michael http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68294 Michael Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:38:34 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68294 H.L. Mencken said “The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think

things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions

and taboos. Almost invariably he comes to the conclusion that the government

he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic,

he tries to change it. And if he is not romantic personally, he is apt to spread

discontent among those who are.”

The Tea Parties are just a way of spreading discontent among those who’ve realized Mencken’s view of our government is correct. How can there be reform if we don’t begin by airing our discontent?

As for those people attending the Tea Parties with whom we disagree, I don’t care if they’re wrong on a multitude of issues as long as we agree on one, that we need to shrink government and reclaim our liberty.

]]> By: Paul http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68290 Paul Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:27:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68290 The problem with the Tea Partys is the same problem associated with electoral politics. It accomplishes nothing, but makes its participants feel as if they’ve done something.

If we are to roll back the State and regain any freedom it will not be by voting or picketing. It will because of secession or revolution or a refusal of the individual to recognize the State after it has gone bankrupt. The State will not voluntarily yield one iota of authority due to a vote or petition.

]]> By: Chris http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68289 Chris Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:01:50 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68289 “the fight for liberty cannot afford to be associated with kooks like this.

It’s what killed Ron Paul’s campaign, and it will most assuredly kill this movement as well if it’s not put an immediate stop”

100% incorrect. That is NOT “what killed Ron Paul’s campaign. Ostracism and then marginalization by mainstream media, plus poor management, is what killed it.

]]> By: Westmiller http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/08/point-the-tea-parties-are-ultimately-bad-for-liberty/#comment-68288 Westmiller Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:50:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=6331#comment-68288 Jane: “But DO we “the people” *have* representation?”

Yep. The best that money can buy … whether they can read or not.
But, my point is not whether representation is good or bad, nor who buys it, nor what they do. The point is that we *do* have representation, so the “Tea Party” theme doesn’t apply, as it did in 1773.

It’s fine to attach your own issues to the Tea Party theme … everybody does it. Which means that it has no coherent message. “Politicians are scum!” is not a message, it’s just whining.

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