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	<title>Comments on: The Arrest Of Henry Louis Gates Was Unconstitutional</title>
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		<title>By: Nylarthotep</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/07/29/the-arrest-of-henry-louis-gates-was-unconstitutional/#comment-68586</link>
		<dc:creator>Nylarthotep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, you&#039;re right. Gates had every right to disturb the peace and be a complete jackass.

They should have arrested him for intefering with a police investigation. 

Gates assumption was that the cops were out to stomp on him rather than do what they told him they were there for, that is a reported break in my more than one individual.

Society demands police protect them and yet refuse to cooperate in any manner that would be beneficial to them. Nice double standard there.

Oh, and as for the police entering the house for the call, they didn&#039;t need a warrant. They were responding to a call of a crime in progress and had cause to enter. If Gates had just identified himself and been cooperative the police would have disappeared in a couple of minutes. Instead he decided to practice his First Amendment right and to hell with the guy actually providing service to the community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you&#8217;re right. Gates had every right to disturb the peace and be a complete jackass.</p>
<p>They should have arrested him for intefering with a police investigation. </p>
<p>Gates assumption was that the cops were out to stomp on him rather than do what they told him they were there for, that is a reported break in my more than one individual.</p>
<p>Society demands police protect them and yet refuse to cooperate in any manner that would be beneficial to them. Nice double standard there.</p>
<p>Oh, and as for the police entering the house for the call, they didn&#8217;t need a warrant. They were responding to a call of a crime in progress and had cause to enter. If Gates had just identified himself and been cooperative the police would have disappeared in a couple of minutes. Instead he decided to practice his First Amendment right and to hell with the guy actually providing service to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh common lets make it juicy. Suppose there have been a number of home invasion robberies in which families were taken hostage have been robbed and beatin. The last one of which the police came and went when the father insisted everything was alright out of fear but in fact the 13 year old daughter was being raped in the rear of the house.

What&#039;s a cop to do????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh common lets make it juicy. Suppose there have been a number of home invasion robberies in which families were taken hostage have been robbed and beatin. The last one of which the police came and went when the father insisted everything was alright out of fear but in fact the 13 year old daughter was being raped in the rear of the house.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s a cop to do????</p>
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		<title>By: charrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>charrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Law:  So what is the law?  If an officer is responding to a &quot;911&quot; call, is he or is he not allowed to enter a private residence without a search warrant?  How about if the homeowner refuses to prove that is his residence?  In other words, does the fact that it&#039;s a &quot;911&quot; call over-ride other laws stating a search warrant is required?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Law:  So what is the law?  If an officer is responding to a &#8220;911&#8243; call, is he or is he not allowed to enter a private residence without a search warrant?  How about if the homeowner refuses to prove that is his residence?  In other words, does the fact that it&#8217;s a &#8220;911&#8243; call over-ride other laws stating a search warrant is required?</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Really Louis Gates could have told the cop to “fuck off”.&quot;

Yeah, that&#039;s the ticket.  Good advice there champ.

Yep, I always tell my 21 year-old son, and his friends, that if they are ever pulled over, to exercise their rights endowed from our Creator, to start screaming and cussing, and carrying on; and for his friends who are persons of color - if even only ONE of three cops on scene is a person of non-color,(as was the case for Gates)  to start screaming RACIST at him.  After all, the cops are constitutionally and lawfully BOUND...BOUND I tell you, to just suck it up and walk away.  So really, why not indulge yourself if you&#039;re having a bad day.  Unload on the guy trying to do his job to make sure a criminal isn&#039;t breaking into your home.  You just got back from China for god&#039;s sake and you&#039;re jet-lagged.  And you are also a very important person too, so let&#039;s not forget that   

Say to him &quot;Do you know who I am?&quot;  That works well too, I&#039;ve heard.  Either right before or after saying &quot;Fuck off,&quot; either way is fine. 

Fuck the cop and fuck considering his side of the equation or how he feels in this situation.   He is lawfully BOUND to act in a professional manner at ALL times.  And therefore perform his job PERFECTLY - just as I am sure you perform your job perfectly, every day.  No matter HOW much verbal abuse you heap upon him.  He is not human like the rest of us.  He is just a Cop. Be an unfeeling machine, you pig.  

If all that screaming and accusations of &quot;RACIST&quot; etc.,  doesn&#039;t get a rise out of the Pig and piss him off sufficiently so that he cuffs you and drives you downtown, so that you can then make even MORE of a public spectacle of yourself (and perhaps even file a lawsuit, not to mention a nice book deal!!)  try yelling &quot;Homophobe&quot; too, that&#039;s always a good one - or perhaps even SPIT on the racist pig. Give him some of your enraged spittle right in his Facist Bush police state racist whitey face!!  With any luck he&#039;ll then Taz you and somebody will have a videocam nearby, and then we can all have a national heartattack over the jack-booted &quot;police state&quot; we live in.  

Ah Well, at least our Therapist in Chief will calm these trouble waters, and turn this little &quot;misunderstanding&quot; into a &quot;teaching moment,&quot; with a Bud Light in his hand.  I await the Wise Words of the Master with bated breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Really Louis Gates could have told the cop to “fuck off”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s the ticket.  Good advice there champ.</p>
<p>Yep, I always tell my 21 year-old son, and his friends, that if they are ever pulled over, to exercise their rights endowed from our Creator, to start screaming and cussing, and carrying on; and for his friends who are persons of color &#8211; if even only ONE of three cops on scene is a person of non-color,(as was the case for Gates)  to start screaming RACIST at him.  After all, the cops are constitutionally and lawfully BOUND&#8230;BOUND I tell you, to just suck it up and walk away.  So really, why not indulge yourself if you&#8217;re having a bad day.  Unload on the guy trying to do his job to make sure a criminal isn&#8217;t breaking into your home.  You just got back from China for god&#8217;s sake and you&#8217;re jet-lagged.  And you are also a very important person too, so let&#8217;s not forget that   </p>
<p>Say to him &#8220;Do you know who I am?&#8221;  That works well too, I&#8217;ve heard.  Either right before or after saying &#8220;Fuck off,&#8221; either way is fine. </p>
<p>Fuck the cop and fuck considering his side of the equation or how he feels in this situation.   He is lawfully BOUND to act in a professional manner at ALL times.  And therefore perform his job PERFECTLY &#8211; just as I am sure you perform your job perfectly, every day.  No matter HOW much verbal abuse you heap upon him.  He is not human like the rest of us.  He is just a Cop. Be an unfeeling machine, you pig.  </p>
<p>If all that screaming and accusations of &#8220;RACIST&#8221; etc.,  doesn&#8217;t get a rise out of the Pig and piss him off sufficiently so that he cuffs you and drives you downtown, so that you can then make even MORE of a public spectacle of yourself (and perhaps even file a lawsuit, not to mention a nice book deal!!)  try yelling &#8220;Homophobe&#8221; too, that&#8217;s always a good one &#8211; or perhaps even SPIT on the racist pig. Give him some of your enraged spittle right in his Facist Bush police state racist whitey face!!  With any luck he&#8217;ll then Taz you and somebody will have a videocam nearby, and then we can all have a national heartattack over the jack-booted &#8220;police state&#8221; we live in.  </p>
<p>Ah Well, at least our Therapist in Chief will calm these trouble waters, and turn this little &#8220;misunderstanding&#8221; into a &#8220;teaching moment,&#8221; with a Bud Light in his hand.  I await the Wise Words of the Master with bated breath.</p>
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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Obama, Gates, Crowley, and the Troubling Controversy that Seemingly Won’t Go Away</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Obama, Gates, Crowley, and the Troubling Controversy that Seemingly Won’t Go Away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KYJurisDoctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>KYJurisDoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really Louis Gates could have told the cop to &quot;fuck off&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Louis Gates could have told the cop to &#8220;fuck off&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voltaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Red:

You said: &quot;Race had nothing to do with it. It was Gate’s mouth and ego that cinched the deal.&quot; Even if Gates actions would predictably end in his arrest, that does not, in my mind, absolve the officer for arresting a man whose only crime was his failure to respect a cops authoritah. If this doesn&#039;t settle it in your mind, Crowley&#039;s wife says &quot;When he has the uniform on, Jim has an expectation of deference.&quot; Jim has an expectation of deference. He feels that outfit entitles him to your obedience, and he is willing to entrap you, to bait you into a circumstance he feels he can pass off as legitimate, and arrest you. Jim Crowley, by his own and his wife&#039;s assertions, has a sense of authority that, if offended, will propel him to arrest you for whatever crime he might concoct. Does that seem right to you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Red:</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;Race had nothing to do with it. It was Gate’s mouth and ego that cinched the deal.&#8221; Even if Gates actions would predictably end in his arrest, that does not, in my mind, absolve the officer for arresting a man whose only crime was his failure to respect a cops authoritah. If this doesn&#8217;t settle it in your mind, Crowley&#8217;s wife says &#8220;When he has the uniform on, Jim has an expectation of deference.&#8221; Jim has an expectation of deference. He feels that outfit entitles him to your obedience, and he is willing to entrap you, to bait you into a circumstance he feels he can pass off as legitimate, and arrest you. Jim Crowley, by his own and his wife&#8217;s assertions, has a sense of authority that, if offended, will propel him to arrest you for whatever crime he might concoct. Does that seem right to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which is why the charges were dropped it seems. However, that usually happens after having to go through the motions of being detained which the office oftentimes exercises the right to do because when you are with an officer in a situation you are in a state of temporary custody anyway (in a sense) and are only able to move on freely when the officer deems so. Bottomline: Crowley may have had enough of Gate&#039;s mouth BUT Gates didn&#039;t have to go outside and was probably more angry with himself for going outside of his home on his own whether he felt provoked by Crowley or not. That was his choice to give Crowley a reason. Couple that with the fact that gates was uncooperative to being with and there you have it: the perfect formula to get arrested. Race had nothing to do with it. It was Gate&#039;s mouth and ego that cinched the deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is why the charges were dropped it seems. However, that usually happens after having to go through the motions of being detained which the office oftentimes exercises the right to do because when you are with an officer in a situation you are in a state of temporary custody anyway (in a sense) and are only able to move on freely when the officer deems so. Bottomline: Crowley may have had enough of Gate&#8217;s mouth BUT Gates didn&#8217;t have to go outside and was probably more angry with himself for going outside of his home on his own whether he felt provoked by Crowley or not. That was his choice to give Crowley a reason. Couple that with the fact that gates was uncooperative to being with and there you have it: the perfect formula to get arrested. Race had nothing to do with it. It was Gate&#8217;s mouth and ego that cinched the deal.</p>
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