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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/08/15/ill-support-your-boycott-if-you-support-mine/#comment-68895</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[southernjames - 

These ideas aren&#039;t at all radical, until you realize that most people believe that two plus two is five when it comes to health care.  They listen to political and media elites who claim that our current health care problems are squarely the fault of the free market.  

Take our friend Annemarie from a previous thread.  She cannot be convinced of the role of government in causing our health care problems.  She is typical of many in the &quot;enlightened&quot; classes that gravitate to Whole Foods.  When confronted with the reality that two plus two doesn&#039;t equal five, these people go apoplectic.  

It is not just their faith in Obama that you&#039;re challenging, it is the entire mental world they live in.  Markets are bad and savage, they believe.  Competition is evil, they believe.  Necessary services must be provided in an organized, harmonized fashion, they believe.  Challenge this fantasy world, as Mackey did, and you are assaulting everything they hold dear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southernjames &#8211; </p>
<p>These ideas aren&#8217;t at all radical, until you realize that most people believe that two plus two is five when it comes to health care.  They listen to political and media elites who claim that our current health care problems are squarely the fault of the free market.  </p>
<p>Take our friend Annemarie from a previous thread.  She cannot be convinced of the role of government in causing our health care problems.  She is typical of many in the &#8220;enlightened&#8221; classes that gravitate to Whole Foods.  When confronted with the reality that two plus two doesn&#8217;t equal five, these people go apoplectic.  </p>
<p>It is not just their faith in Obama that you&#8217;re challenging, it is the entire mental world they live in.  Markets are bad and savage, they believe.  Competition is evil, they believe.  Necessary services must be provided in an organized, harmonized fashion, they believe.  Challenge this fantasy world, as Mackey did, and you are assaulting everything they hold dear.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, all this vitriol over the CEO of a corporation, writing an article explaing how his company structures its health insurance options for its employees, and then making the following suggestions for health care reform in this country:

&quot;•?Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.&quot;

&quot;•?Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.&quot;

&quot;•?Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.&quot;

&quot;•?Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.&quot;

&quot;•?Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor&#039;s visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?&quot; 

&quot;•?Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.&quot; 

&quot;•?Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren&#039;t covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children&#039;s Health Insurance Program.&quot;

What is so damn radical about the above ideas?  I&#039;m not saying I agree with all of them or that I think all of them are even workable. I&#039;m just trying to figure out what on earth has the  delicate WF customer panties in a knot over this article?  Is it becuase he DARES to disagree with Exalted Dear Leader?  Is that it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, all this vitriol over the CEO of a corporation, writing an article explaing how his company structures its health insurance options for its employees, and then making the following suggestions for health care reform in this country:</p>
<p>&#8220;•?Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;•?Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;•?Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;•?Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;•?Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor&#8217;s visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;•?Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;•?Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren&#8217;t covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children&#8217;s Health Insurance Program.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is so damn radical about the above ideas?  I&#8217;m not saying I agree with all of them or that I think all of them are even workable. I&#8217;m just trying to figure out what on earth has the  delicate WF customer panties in a knot over this article?  Is it becuase he DARES to disagree with Exalted Dear Leader?  Is that it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/08/15/ill-support-your-boycott-if-you-support-mine/#comment-68893</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trust and mistrust begin in childhood.  There are things that I trust from government and things I don&#039;t trust.  The same is true of corporate business. There is also the element of class in society.  Should I trust anyone that only functions for their own self interest?  An unregulated economy is not an economic ideal, it is a sham.The best government that money can buy is a sham. To be owned by the rich is slavery, debt is a form of slavery. I trust as much as I believe people to be compassionate.  Letting people go bankrupt for medical reasons isn&#039;t compassion.  Ignoring the mentally ill by putting them in jail or leaving them homeless isn&#039;t compassion.  But making money by supplying tools of war does not help, either.  I would rather boycott ignorance, stupidity, hatred, fear, and a false sense of freedom.  If that means I grow my own lettuce, so be it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust and mistrust begin in childhood.  There are things that I trust from government and things I don&#8217;t trust.  The same is true of corporate business. There is also the element of class in society.  Should I trust anyone that only functions for their own self interest?  An unregulated economy is not an economic ideal, it is a sham.The best government that money can buy is a sham. To be owned by the rich is slavery, debt is a form of slavery. I trust as much as I believe people to be compassionate.  Letting people go bankrupt for medical reasons isn&#8217;t compassion.  Ignoring the mentally ill by putting them in jail or leaving them homeless isn&#8217;t compassion.  But making money by supplying tools of war does not help, either.  I would rather boycott ignorance, stupidity, hatred, fear, and a false sense of freedom.  If that means I grow my own lettuce, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: John222</title>
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		<dc:creator>John222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point Don Boudreaux is trying to make seems to be escaping some. We are free to boycott many businesses for whatever reason, whether it be lousy service, shoddy merchandise, or the opinions of the CEO.

When we are given lousy service or products by the government, we do not have option of boycotting their services. We are forced to accept whatever level or quality of service they offer. They have a monopoly that is maintained through the use of force.

I wonder how  some of those who have decided to boycott Whole Foods would feel if they were rounded up at the point of a gun and forced to shop there. If they resisted they could be shot or imprisoned. If Whole Foods were to conduct business this way they would also not have to maintain their current levels of service or quality of product, which I assume has been at least satisfactory (I don&#039;t have one nearby).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point Don Boudreaux is trying to make seems to be escaping some. We are free to boycott many businesses for whatever reason, whether it be lousy service, shoddy merchandise, or the opinions of the CEO.</p>
<p>When we are given lousy service or products by the government, we do not have option of boycotting their services. We are forced to accept whatever level or quality of service they offer. They have a monopoly that is maintained through the use of force.</p>
<p>I wonder how  some of those who have decided to boycott Whole Foods would feel if they were rounded up at the point of a gun and forced to shop there. If they resisted they could be shot or imprisoned. If Whole Foods were to conduct business this way they would also not have to maintain their current levels of service or quality of product, which I assume has been at least satisfactory (I don&#8217;t have one nearby).</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/08/15/ill-support-your-boycott-if-you-support-mine/#comment-68888</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something else worth thinking about:

I also wonder how much of Mackey&#039;s views are because he is a Libertarian and how much is because he wants people to have health savings accounts that let people buy supplement and herbal remedies from Whole Foods. Some of what they sell may be beneficial but much of it is pure snake oil where the production costs have no real relationship with the... Read More price it is sold at. This is especially true for anything listed as homeopathic; aside from all scientific evidence showing that when you dilute all of a herb out of a sugar pill it tends to just be a placebo, there is a question of how one sugar pill can cost more than another when dilution should also apply to the cost with the cost of the herb being negligible and all cost remaining in the sugar pill itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else worth thinking about:</p>
<p>I also wonder how much of Mackey&#8217;s views are because he is a Libertarian and how much is because he wants people to have health savings accounts that let people buy supplement and herbal remedies from Whole Foods. Some of what they sell may be beneficial but much of it is pure snake oil where the production costs have no real relationship with the&#8230; Read More price it is sold at. This is especially true for anything listed as homeopathic; aside from all scientific evidence showing that when you dilute all of a herb out of a sugar pill it tends to just be a placebo, there is a question of how one sugar pill can cost more than another when dilution should also apply to the cost with the cost of the herb being negligible and all cost remaining in the sugar pill itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Denouncing a boycott of a private company is a bit silly. Consumption is a choice and nobody should be able to tell me I HAVE TO buy some overpriced merchandise at a store I don&#039;t like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denouncing a boycott of a private company is a bit silly. Consumption is a choice and nobody should be able to tell me I HAVE TO buy some overpriced merchandise at a store I don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he&#039;ll support me in my choice not to give Whole Foods my money by not entering into their stores, I&#039;ll support his choice not to pay taxes in America and to get out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;ll support me in my choice not to give Whole Foods my money by not entering into their stores, I&#8217;ll support his choice not to pay taxes in America and to get out!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the Whole Foods CEO and I would happily support them if they were here its just they only put their stores in demographic areas that are much richer than my area.  I have been to one and was in a farmer&#039;s market outside of one as they promoted local farmers after getting a bad rap for buying organic stuff in the winter from Chile (which is not local).  That last point shows part of the problem;  people have too much time on their hands and not enough important stuff to do as life has become too easy for them, and they have resorted to useless mindless activism and protest since they obviously are bored with hunting and gathering (they can hunt and gather at WF).    I hope they never have to really find out who John Galt is, but it would be nice to see the look on their faces! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Whole Foods CEO and I would happily support them if they were here its just they only put their stores in demographic areas that are much richer than my area.  I have been to one and was in a farmer&#8217;s market outside of one as they promoted local farmers after getting a bad rap for buying organic stuff in the winter from Chile (which is not local).  That last point shows part of the problem;  people have too much time on their hands and not enough important stuff to do as life has become too easy for them, and they have resorted to useless mindless activism and protest since they obviously are bored with hunting and gathering (they can hunt and gather at WF).    I hope they never have to really find out who John Galt is, but it would be nice to see the look on their faces! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This controversy illustrates the main difference between Liberals and conservatives. Liberals pour their efforts into silencing and destroying those with opposing views; conservatives welcome debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This controversy illustrates the main difference between Liberals and conservatives. Liberals pour their efforts into silencing and destroying those with opposing views; conservatives welcome debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Worried</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I started boycotting Whole Foods years ago because it&#039;s a bunch of smelly hippies.   If these hippies start going to Jewel, then I don&#039;t know what the hell I&#039;m going to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started boycotting Whole Foods years ago because it&#8217;s a bunch of smelly hippies.   If these hippies start going to Jewel, then I don&#8217;t know what the hell I&#8217;m going to do.</p>
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		<title>By: gblotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>gblotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do liberals think we need yet another out-of-control bloated inefficient government entitlement program in order to achieve health care reform?  How does that equal reform?

I previously thought Whole Foods was all about Lexus liberals with more money than sense.

Now that I have learned the Whole Foods CEO actually has some intelligent alternatives for real health care reform, I think I&#039;ll become a new customer.  That is the kind of company I want to support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do liberals think we need yet another out-of-control bloated inefficient government entitlement program in order to achieve health care reform?  How does that equal reform?</p>
<p>I previously thought Whole Foods was all about Lexus liberals with more money than sense.</p>
<p>Now that I have learned the Whole Foods CEO actually has some intelligent alternatives for real health care reform, I think I&#8217;ll become a new customer.  That is the kind of company I want to support.</p>
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		<title>By: Norma Newell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norma Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am well aware of the larger issue. I just wanted to make Mr Boudreaux aware that not paying his taxes should be nothing more than a fleeting thought as I am sure it was. There is no whole foods around here but if I see one ever I will keep on driving. I am also boycotting CNN programming and Fox programming for the lies in the adds that are aired about medicare. I am Health Insurance Reform Zealot!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am well aware of the larger issue. I just wanted to make Mr Boudreaux aware that not paying his taxes should be nothing more than a fleeting thought as I am sure it was. There is no whole foods around here but if I see one ever I will keep on driving. I am also boycotting CNN programming and Fox programming for the lies in the adds that are aired about medicare. I am Health Insurance Reform Zealot!!!</p>
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		<title>By: redrockraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>redrockraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I have been shopping regularly at Whole Foods in Las Vegas for over 10 years. We sincerely thank the business CEO for providing his view of the health care issues facing the US. Since Mr. Mackey&#039;s views appear to be a direct contradiction to the healthy living ideals that we have until now believed that their stores promote, my wife and I will be taking our business to another store. 

We do not intend to continue to support a hypocritical business that believes more in lining their own pockets and shortchanging their employees health plans than in promoting the health and welfare of their customers and employees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have been shopping regularly at Whole Foods in Las Vegas for over 10 years. We sincerely thank the business CEO for providing his view of the health care issues facing the US. Since Mr. Mackey&#8217;s views appear to be a direct contradiction to the healthy living ideals that we have until now believed that their stores promote, my wife and I will be taking our business to another store. </p>
<p>We do not intend to continue to support a hypocritical business that believes more in lining their own pockets and shortchanging their employees health plans than in promoting the health and welfare of their customers and employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it is not a crime to disagree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is not a crime to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hu rah! to all of you. voice your opinion! boycott WF, Boycott Obamanomics- lets be gratefull we can still do this- so I will always support your right to think and express, just support my right also. Don&#039;t make it hate crime to disagree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hu rah! to all of you. voice your opinion! boycott WF, Boycott Obamanomics- lets be gratefull we can still do this- so I will always support your right to think and express, just support my right also. Don&#8217;t make it hate crime to disagree.</p>
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