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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Two More Perspectives on Obama&#8217;s Speech</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69316</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Two More Perspectives on Obama&#8217;s Speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Quincy: Actually, Obama vs. the laws of thermodynamics would be quite the grudge match&#8230; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69302</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Obama vs. the laws of thermodynamics would be quite the grudge match...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Obama vs. the laws of thermodynamics would be quite the grudge match&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69301</link>
		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And the people would be behind a machine that created limitless energy while consuming no fuel.&quot;

Our President is going to order that one be built.  I just know it.  And I can&#039;t wait. 

And if it doesn&#039;t happen, it will be the fault of naysayers, and liars, and those who want to do nothing. Like you.  Well the time for bickering is over.  Doing nothing is not an option.  The time has come to &quot;punch back twice as hard.&quot;  And we are not going to waste our time with those who have calculated that its better politics to just kill the perpetual energy machine.  And this perpetural energy machine is not going to add one dime to the deficit.  It is time to do great things.   And that includes getting behind a machine that creates limitless energy while creating millions of green jobs and also lowers our sea levels.   We are the change we&#039;ve been waiting for. 

Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the people would be behind a machine that created limitless energy while consuming no fuel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our President is going to order that one be built.  I just know it.  And I can&#8217;t wait. </p>
<p>And if it doesn&#8217;t happen, it will be the fault of naysayers, and liars, and those who want to do nothing. Like you.  Well the time for bickering is over.  Doing nothing is not an option.  The time has come to &#8220;punch back twice as hard.&#8221;  And we are not going to waste our time with those who have calculated that its better politics to just kill the perpetual energy machine.  And this perpetural energy machine is not going to add one dime to the deficit.  It is time to do great things.   And that includes getting behind a machine that creates limitless energy while creating millions of green jobs and also lowers our sea levels.   We are the change we&#8217;ve been waiting for. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69300</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The people would be behind a system under which they didn’t have to pay anything for health care.&quot;

And the people would be behind a machine that created limitless energy while consuming no fuel.  What the hell is your point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people would be behind a system under which they didn’t have to pay anything for health care.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the people would be behind a machine that created limitless energy while consuming no fuel.  What the hell is your point?</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69299</link>
		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The people would be behind a system under which they didn’t have to pay anything for health care.&quot;

I want free stuff.  I love free stuff. If somebody else is paying for it, I don&#039;t give a shit. It&#039;s free for ME, baby.  And that&#039;s what matters, right?   Rock on. 

&quot;Compromise is the only thing that’s hurting health care reform. The dems need to push the public option on a much more aggressive level.&quot;

The Dems have firm and strong majorities in both Houses and have the White House.  They can pass whatever they damn well please.   Oh, except for those darn moderate &quot;blue dog&quot; dems who....dang it!!..are being forced to answer to the concerns of their employers (a/k/a the constituents who voted them into office) if they hope to remain employed.  

Gosh - if only our President could be given more...uh...enhanced powers, to do what he wants to do and what he, in his wisdom knows is the best for all of us - you know, kind of like President Chavez has - we could finally get the sort of Change we deserve in this country!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people would be behind a system under which they didn’t have to pay anything for health care.&#8221;</p>
<p>I want free stuff.  I love free stuff. If somebody else is paying for it, I don&#8217;t give a shit. It&#8217;s free for ME, baby.  And that&#8217;s what matters, right?   Rock on. </p>
<p>&#8220;Compromise is the only thing that’s hurting health care reform. The dems need to push the public option on a much more aggressive level.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Dems have firm and strong majorities in both Houses and have the White House.  They can pass whatever they damn well please.   Oh, except for those darn moderate &#8220;blue dog&#8221; dems who&#8230;.dang it!!..are being forced to answer to the concerns of their employers (a/k/a the constituents who voted them into office) if they hope to remain employed.  </p>
<p>Gosh &#8211; if only our President could be given more&#8230;uh&#8230;enhanced powers, to do what he wants to do and what he, in his wisdom knows is the best for all of us &#8211; you know, kind of like President Chavez has &#8211; we could finally get the sort of Change we deserve in this country!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69298</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo Quincy; well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Quincy; well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Cerberus</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69291</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerberus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The people would be behind a system under which they didn&#039;t have to pay anything for health care. Compromise is the only thing that&#039;s hurting health care reform.  The dems need to push the public option on a much more aggressive level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people would be behind a system under which they didn&#8217;t have to pay anything for health care. Compromise is the only thing that&#8217;s hurting health care reform.  The dems need to push the public option on a much more aggressive level.</p>
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		<title>By: southernjames</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69290</link>
		<dc:creator>southernjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The usual straw man we get time and time and time again.  The &quot;we need to do this,&quot; with the alternative being  &quot;doing nothing.&quot;  EVERYBODY favors reform and NOBODY is in favor of &quot;doing nothing.&quot;  Just because people are opposed to this particular Crap sandwich doesn&#039;t mean people are &quot;anti-reform&quot; no matter how insistant Pravda is on labeling us that way.

We get fed this:  &quot;Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics.&quot; 

A little while later -- hmmm, who, pray tell, is the real scare-monger among us?:

&quot;Everyone in this room KNOWS what will happen if we DO NOTHING. Our deficit will grow. (!!!). More families will go bankrupt. (!!!)  More businesses will close. (!!!)  More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most (!!) And more will DIE as a result.&quot;  

Oh, I get it.  CONFORM TO MY WILL NOW!!!  RIGHT NOW!!  Or people will DIE!!!!! 

And this:

&quot;There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false - the reforms I&#039;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&quot;

This is a flat-out lie.  The Democrats THREW OUT Republican-sponsored amendments that would have attempted to prevent illegals from being treated under the House version of Obama&#039;s plan. It is not DESIGNED to apply to illegals, but since there is no mechanism in place REQUIRING legal residency confirmation, etc., everybody with half a brain knows that if Obamacare becomes law, illegals will receive benefits like those residing here legally.  Obama knows it.  The Dems know it.  We all know it.   So why not just be HONEST, instead of disengenous?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The usual straw man we get time and time and time again.  The &#8220;we need to do this,&#8221; with the alternative being  &#8220;doing nothing.&#8221;  EVERYBODY favors reform and NOBODY is in favor of &#8220;doing nothing.&#8221;  Just because people are opposed to this particular Crap sandwich doesn&#8217;t mean people are &#8220;anti-reform&#8221; no matter how insistant Pravda is on labeling us that way.</p>
<p>We get fed this:  &#8220;Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics.&#8221; </p>
<p>A little while later &#8212; hmmm, who, pray tell, is the real scare-monger among us?:</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone in this room KNOWS what will happen if we DO NOTHING. Our deficit will grow. (!!!). More families will go bankrupt. (!!!)  More businesses will close. (!!!)  More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most (!!) And more will DIE as a result.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Oh, I get it.  CONFORM TO MY WILL NOW!!!  RIGHT NOW!!  Or people will DIE!!!!! </p>
<p>And this:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false &#8211; the reforms I&#8217;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a flat-out lie.  The Democrats THREW OUT Republican-sponsored amendments that would have attempted to prevent illegals from being treated under the House version of Obama&#8217;s plan. It is not DESIGNED to apply to illegals, but since there is no mechanism in place REQUIRING legal residency confirmation, etc., everybody with half a brain knows that if Obamacare becomes law, illegals will receive benefits like those residing here legally.  Obama knows it.  The Dems know it.  We all know it.   So why not just be HONEST, instead of disengenous?</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69287</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worse than that.  By destroying the mechanisms by which insurance companies contain costs, Obama is ensuring that millions of people will have to change coverage when their current carrier goes under.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse than that.  By destroying the mechanisms by which insurance companies contain costs, Obama is ensuring that millions of people will have to change coverage when their current carrier goes under.</p>
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		<title>By: tomw</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69285</link>
		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.&quot;

 The key word here is REQUIRE.  The employer is not REQUIRED to change your coverage, or drop it completely, but he will be at a disadvantage with any competitor that chooses to reduce insurance expense by dropping coverage.  He doesn&#039;t out and out lie, but he willingly ignores the consequence, and shrouds it in soothing eloquent phrases.  You can drown in syrup as well as you can drown in vinegar.

 &quot;I did not have sex with that woman.&quot;

&quot;I will not raise your taxes.&quot;

Who do you believe?

tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.&#8221;</p>
<p> The key word here is REQUIRE.  The employer is not REQUIRED to change your coverage, or drop it completely, but he will be at a disadvantage with any competitor that chooses to reduce insurance expense by dropping coverage.  He doesn&#8217;t out and out lie, but he willingly ignores the consequence, and shrouds it in soothing eloquent phrases.  You can drown in syrup as well as you can drown in vinegar.</p>
<p> &#8220;I did not have sex with that woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I will not raise your taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who do you believe?</p>
<p>tom</p>
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		<title>By: Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; So How Did The President Do Last Night ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; So How Did The President Do Last Night ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] at The Liberty Papers points out that Obama is losing focus on what his job is supposed to be: Mr. President, your oath of office mentioned nothing about “doing great things” or “replacing [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Chuck Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/09/09/barack-obamas-newspeak-on-health-care/#comment-69276</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The future is in the builtinout.  When he stated that no one here illegally would benefit from his plan, he was giving us a hint of what is to come - &quot;immigration reform&quot;.  And if he grants legal status in some form to all the illegals here now, then they would qualify for free healthcare wouldn&#039;t they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The future is in the builtinout.  When he stated that no one here illegally would benefit from his plan, he was giving us a hint of what is to come &#8211; &#8220;immigration reform&#8221;.  And if he grants legal status in some form to all the illegals here now, then they would qualify for free healthcare wouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Posts about Barack Obama as of September 9, 2009 &#187; The Daily Parr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Posts about Barack Obama as of September 9, 2009 &#187; The Daily Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about Barack Obama as of September 9, 2009   Barack Obama’s Newspeak on Health Care &#8211; thelibertypapers.org 09/10/2009 Tonight’s speech on health care was a doubling down on [...]]]></description>
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