Comments on: Don’t Say You Want A Revolution

By: George Donnelly

George Donnelly — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:29:36 +0000

You can have your revolution and eat it too!

By: The Crossed Pond » Revolution…Not Now

The Crossed Pond » Revolution…Not Now — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:13:18 +0000

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By: The News Factor, an informative online Conservative News Magazine » Ahhhh nuts! There goes the revolution … it wouldn’t work out so well this time anyway

Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:47:34 +0000

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By: Bryan Pick

Bryan Pick — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:55:13 +0000

I'm of the mind that we do have a very long train of abuses suggesting a strong tendency (if not always designs) to reduce liberty progressively and permanently. I see few on the Left drawing solid lines saying they want to government to do this much and no more. Americans have much ingrained sympathy for preserving individual responsibility and initiative. The people are still generally ideologically conservative/pro-liberty, but in aggregate are operationally statist, mainly because of how our government is currently organized. And while I am an optimist of a sort, I also perceive that the growth of government power is not a random walk: it tends to be self-perpetuating. I'm definitely seeking a nonviolent political strategy for reversing that tide. I'm all for fighting for every inch and exhausting our most promising options, but a rational strategist looks at options based on risk and reward, and there are some options we shouldn't even bother trying because they're so unlikely to succeed. Revolution and secession are not strictly last resorts.

By: siannopollo

siannopollo — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:18:30 +0000

While all that sounds nice, and you believe that you’re painting a good picture of why some form of revolution isn’t necessary, I don’t think you fully grock what The Declaration of Independence says:

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…”

Take note of the “long train of abuses” phrase. It was not just one thing that led the colonists to rebel against England. It wasn’t just the quartering of British troops, it wasn’t just taxation without representation, it wasn’t just a trade imbalance, and it wasn’t just unjust local government. It was all those things combined. It was over 10 years of petitioning the King of England to reign in the British Parliament to no avail.

And the same thing is happening in our country. It isn’t just Obama-care, and it isn’t just the Social Security Ponzi scheme, it isn’t just the constant assaults to our Natural rights (1st, 2nd, 4th Amendments), it isn’t just the welfare state, it isn’t just the debasement of our currency since 1913, and it isn’t just the policing/nation-building of the world that our military is involved in; it is all those things.

The ideas of secession and revolution aren’t new. It just seems that we are getting to the end of that “long train of abuses”. Thankfully it looks like the States are coming to their senses and remembering that they have power over the Federal government via the 10th Amendment (no matter what the courts may opine).

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