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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/05/17/a-succinct-take-on-immigration/#comment-72628</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan,

Our immigration laws don&#039;t reflect economic or social reality, in any way, shape, or form.

Our immigration laws are like getting nailed by a speed trap -- not designed for safety, but for generating revenue.  Our immigration laws are like getting a ticket for parallel parking with your bumper extending 8 inches over the red portion of the curb.  Our immigration laws are like getting busted for crossing the street when the light says &quot;Don&#039;t Walk&quot; even though you can see a quarter mile in both directions and no cars are coming.

Breaking the law is illegal, by definition.  That doesn&#039;t mean breaking the law is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Our immigration laws don&#8217;t reflect economic or social reality, in any way, shape, or form.</p>
<p>Our immigration laws are like getting nailed by a speed trap &#8212; not designed for safety, but for generating revenue.  Our immigration laws are like getting a ticket for parallel parking with your bumper extending 8 inches over the red portion of the curb.  Our immigration laws are like getting busted for crossing the street when the light says &#8220;Don&#8217;t Walk&#8221; even though you can see a quarter mile in both directions and no cars are coming.</p>
<p>Breaking the law is illegal, by definition.  That doesn&#8217;t mean breaking the law is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/05/17/a-succinct-take-on-immigration/#comment-72626</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree totally with Dedicated Dad ... illegal means simply that, breaking the law. It is no different than stealing. If you want to immigrate here, then do it legally. The red-tape has been created by the pols (they are the ones that make the rules remember) that want to grant amnesty solely for the purpose of expanding their voter base. Immigrants are welcome ... they just have to follow the rules and pay taxes like the rest of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally with Dedicated Dad &#8230; illegal means simply that, breaking the law. It is no different than stealing. If you want to immigrate here, then do it legally. The red-tape has been created by the pols (they are the ones that make the rules remember) that want to grant amnesty solely for the purpose of expanding their voter base. Immigrants are welcome &#8230; they just have to follow the rules and pay taxes like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dedicated_Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/05/17/a-succinct-take-on-immigration/#comment-72570</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedicated_Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 06:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m usually in agreement with you, but NOT on this.

Not by a country mile - or a million of them.

We have laws.  Every illegal&#039;s first act was to break them.

My problem is all of the uproar masking as &quot;reform.&quot;

All we need to do is enforce existing laws.

Why is it that my daughter - unmistakeably a natural-born citizen - cannot get a minimum-wage job without completing an I-9 form but works alongside those who make no attempt to conceal their illegal status?

Further, the invaders drive down wages - which impacts everyone as well.

The .gov should be enforcing our borders and stay the hell out of wages and other matters.

Border protection is one of the few legitimate functions of the fed .gov -- and like ALL its legitimate functions it instead actively ignores its duty and denigrates anyone (like me) who points out this obvious fact.

If you want to come here, have something to contribute, and some skill WE NEED, then we should be able to expedite your paperwork.

We have vast government plantations filled with folks who are only qualified for - and hence should be doing - the sort of menial labor most illegals gravitate toward, thus compounding our problems.

First we must clear the invading horde, then we must force the indolent to earn their keep.  

The latter isn&#039;t really possible without the former.

DD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m usually in agreement with you, but NOT on this.</p>
<p>Not by a country mile &#8211; or a million of them.</p>
<p>We have laws.  Every illegal&#8217;s first act was to break them.</p>
<p>My problem is all of the uproar masking as &#8220;reform.&#8221;</p>
<p>All we need to do is enforce existing laws.</p>
<p>Why is it that my daughter &#8211; unmistakeably a natural-born citizen &#8211; cannot get a minimum-wage job without completing an I-9 form but works alongside those who make no attempt to conceal their illegal status?</p>
<p>Further, the invaders drive down wages &#8211; which impacts everyone as well.</p>
<p>The .gov should be enforcing our borders and stay the hell out of wages and other matters.</p>
<p>Border protection is one of the few legitimate functions of the fed .gov &#8212; and like ALL its legitimate functions it instead actively ignores its duty and denigrates anyone (like me) who points out this obvious fact.</p>
<p>If you want to come here, have something to contribute, and some skill WE NEED, then we should be able to expedite your paperwork.</p>
<p>We have vast government plantations filled with folks who are only qualified for &#8211; and hence should be doing &#8211; the sort of menial labor most illegals gravitate toward, thus compounding our problems.</p>
<p>First we must clear the invading horde, then we must force the indolent to earn their keep.  </p>
<p>The latter isn&#8217;t really possible without the former.</p>
<p>DD</p>
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		<title>By: Windy Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/05/17/a-succinct-take-on-immigration/#comment-72487</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 00:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t begrudge the immigrants any of this. My wrath is reserved for the politicians who see value in creating a system where the would-be immigrants could die of old age before the quotas allow them to enter America legally, but if they sneak in and manage to be ghosts for an unknown number of years an amnesty program gives them permanent resedency long before the potential immigrants who did not decide to trespass can even hope to begin the permanent residency process, where these ghosts have to fear the knock on the door at midnight, or some routine traffic stop that will turn into a deportation. This system is unAmerican!
The quotas should be much larger, because we&#039;ve seen from the last 30 years that when the Feds stay out of the economy-meddling business America can absorb a much larger number of immigrants at all economic and skill levels without trouble.
Come to think of it, I think the business about fearing the knock on the door at midnight is not a bug but a feature for the statist big government types, as that ensures people need the government, mostly to protect themselves from the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge the immigrants any of this. My wrath is reserved for the politicians who see value in creating a system where the would-be immigrants could die of old age before the quotas allow them to enter America legally, but if they sneak in and manage to be ghosts for an unknown number of years an amnesty program gives them permanent resedency long before the potential immigrants who did not decide to trespass can even hope to begin the permanent residency process, where these ghosts have to fear the knock on the door at midnight, or some routine traffic stop that will turn into a deportation. This system is unAmerican!<br />
The quotas should be much larger, because we&#8217;ve seen from the last 30 years that when the Feds stay out of the economy-meddling business America can absorb a much larger number of immigrants at all economic and skill levels without trouble.<br />
Come to think of it, I think the business about fearing the knock on the door at midnight is not a bug but a feature for the statist big government types, as that ensures people need the government, mostly to protect themselves from the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/05/17/a-succinct-take-on-immigration/#comment-72443</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also really worth noting that, if Irish immigrants had arrived at Ellis Island and been met with the massive bureaucracy and red tape that Mexican immigrants are faced with, they may have just kept going north up to Quebec or Newfoundland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also really worth noting that, if Irish immigrants had arrived at Ellis Island and been met with the massive bureaucracy and red tape that Mexican immigrants are faced with, they may have just kept going north up to Quebec or Newfoundland.</p>
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