Comments on: Modern Jurisprudence is PROFOUNDLY Broken

By: Keith Richard Radford Jr

Keith Richard Radford Jr — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:09:38 +0000

“O” and Chris your an idiot for pushing lies

By: Keith Richard Radford Jr

Keith Richard Radford Jr — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:04:56 +0000

we are at the crossroads, on one hand we have the folks that think we should get a permit to have sex and the act should be televised, critiqued, criticized and age appropriate according to specifications, and the other camp that says get the hell out of my bedroom and if I like to include some toys it’s none of your business. In my humble opinion the romance is in the moment and the hand in our wife’s back pocket while walking the beach has nothing to do with restrictions, age, or who might be watching form the hotel window, just love which is hard too find and respected for being alive.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 May 2010 20:27:04 +0000

JW, I’ve seen the same studies and I think they’re probably correct, at least in concept if not in exact detail.

REAL sex offenders; rapists, molestors etc… WILL reoffend if given the opportunity… Almost 100%.

But most people labeled as sex offenders are not.

The problem is, there is no statistical separation of them.

By: JW

JW — Mon, 17 May 2010 20:18:51 +0000

I can’t go grab my source just yet (I promise I’ll repost when I get home) but I’ve seen the reports and I agree they’re slanted. You find a wide range, especially when you take into account sex offenders. The report I’m thinking of shows that violent predatory sex offenders against children have high recidivism rates, but the vast majority of crimes that don’t involve an actual child (I.E. police stings in chat rooms and child pornography) have lower recidivism rates than any other criminal.

I’ll repost with my source in an hour or so, but lumping a special group of offenders in with the rest goes against the point of the court ruling.

But let me ask this aside:

Imagine a minor (15-year-old) collects CP and gets a 325-year sentence. Isn’t that a life sentence that doesn’t involve murder?

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 May 2010 20:15:39 +0000

Oh and the most recent reference I could find was here:

http://jacksonville.com/interact/blog/stanley_scott/2010-02-23/recidivism_in_america

“The effect of incarceration on former prisoners has been a very common topic of discussion for many years, however a proactive action plan and/or advocacy is missing. In most cases, it is believed that many prisoners will often find themselves right back where they started, either in jail or prison. In the United States, in 2009 over 70% percent of males and 60% of females are rearrested, and 55% and 45% respectively are re-incarcerated.”

But there is no cite for sources.

There is data her, but it’s from the 90s:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/reentry/tables/recidivismtab.cfm

So it comes down to who do you want to believe. We know recidivism is very high, we just don’t know exactly how high.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 17 May 2010 20:08:06 +0000

Didn’t make them up at all; but the numbers out there are horrible. Everyone seems to have a political agenda, and slants their numbers accordingly; except the FBI and USDOJ numbers; and they only cover federal, and not in much detail.

Take a look at all the links here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=recidivism+in+the+U.S.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

No two of them agree to within 10 percentage points. I took a bunch of rough numbers that seemed the most trustworthy, averaged them out, and rounded them off to the nearest 10%.

By: JW

JW — Mon, 17 May 2010 19:40:53 +0000

You said:
The plain fact is, more than 40% of people who go to prison, go back. More than 60% who go to prison for violent crimes go back. More than 80% who go to prison for sex crimes go back.

Can you please name your source for those statistics? I’m nearly certain you’ve just made those numbers up.