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		<title>By: FrankInFL</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/07/14/majority-math/#comment-73459</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ike: all true, but still misses the point.  When the economy finally craters (and it will), neither the Rs nor the Ds will be able to avoid responsibility for the crash.  EITHER ONE could have prevented it and DID NOT.

On that day when there are no more pennies in the piggy, Mother Economics will fix the system for us, and will fix it in our favor.

At that point, it will be all those non-entity parties which ALONE can say &quot;This wasn&#039;t our doing&quot;.  Of those non-entity parties, only two will have a proram which differs noticeably from R or D.

Yes, alas, this scenario requires an economic &#039;cratering event&#039;.  You can&#039;t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ike: all true, but still misses the point.  When the economy finally craters (and it will), neither the Rs nor the Ds will be able to avoid responsibility for the crash.  EITHER ONE could have prevented it and DID NOT.</p>
<p>On that day when there are no more pennies in the piggy, Mother Economics will fix the system for us, and will fix it in our favor.</p>
<p>At that point, it will be all those non-entity parties which ALONE can say &#8220;This wasn&#8217;t our doing&#8221;.  Of those non-entity parties, only two will have a proram which differs noticeably from R or D.</p>
<p>Yes, alas, this scenario requires an economic &#8216;cratering event&#8217;.  You can&#8217;t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/07/14/majority-math/#comment-73441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And how many members of Congress are also members of the LP or the Constitution Party?  How close are they to being able to stop the passage of legislation?  Have they had a good record of electing honest folks who practice what they preach, to use one of my father&#039;s expressions?

I think the answers are:  zero, not at all, and we don&#039;t know because none of them are in office.  For whatever reason none of the candidates of those parties have ever been elected to federal office.  For better or worse, R&#039;s or D&#039;s are the choices we&#039;re stuck with.  The days when a new third party could come along and sweep an election are long gone, a hundred years or more in the past.   The R&#039;s and D&#039;s, over that time, via federal state and local laws have protected themselves from the will of the people.  Why do you suppose that districts are gerrymandered and the U.S. AG&#039;s Office has to approve any changes??  No, racism doesn&#039;t have anything to do with it, that was just the excuse to have the &quot;big boys&quot; in charge of shaping the election districts to be sure that their people always get elected.  *shrug*  What are ya gonna do when not only are the cards stacked against ya, but the whole deck is frozen solid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how many members of Congress are also members of the LP or the Constitution Party?  How close are they to being able to stop the passage of legislation?  Have they had a good record of electing honest folks who practice what they preach, to use one of my father&#8217;s expressions?</p>
<p>I think the answers are:  zero, not at all, and we don&#8217;t know because none of them are in office.  For whatever reason none of the candidates of those parties have ever been elected to federal office.  For better or worse, R&#8217;s or D&#8217;s are the choices we&#8217;re stuck with.  The days when a new third party could come along and sweep an election are long gone, a hundred years or more in the past.   The R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s, over that time, via federal state and local laws have protected themselves from the will of the people.  Why do you suppose that districts are gerrymandered and the U.S. AG&#8217;s Office has to approve any changes??  No, racism doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with it, that was just the excuse to have the &#8220;big boys&#8221; in charge of shaping the election districts to be sure that their people always get elected.  *shrug*  What are ya gonna do when not only are the cards stacked against ya, but the whole deck is frozen solid?</p>
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		<title>By: Ayn R. Key</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/07/14/majority-math/#comment-73437</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayn R. Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting and concise analysis.  There is, though, one problem with it.

Supposing the odds are shattered, every seat goes to the Republicans, and they can actually overturn Obamacare.  I believe they would not.  They&#039;d make a big show of reforming it, which Obama would veto, and they&#039;d overturn the veto.  But the essence of it, that the government can and should manage health care, would not be changed by Republicans who believe in government just as much as Democrats do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and concise analysis.  There is, though, one problem with it.</p>
<p>Supposing the odds are shattered, every seat goes to the Republicans, and they can actually overturn Obamacare.  I believe they would not.  They&#8217;d make a big show of reforming it, which Obama would veto, and they&#8217;d overturn the veto.  But the essence of it, that the government can and should manage health care, would not be changed by Republicans who believe in government just as much as Democrats do.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankInFL</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/07/14/majority-math/#comment-73435</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The numbers are correct; the conclusion is not.

Any party with a majority in either house can STOP things from happening and that&#039;s nearly as good as &quot;rolling back bad legislation&quot;.

Consider what happens if ONE house declines to pass the budget resolution.  Can you spell &quot;OMG, we don&#039;t have any money to do ANYTHING, even pay our own salaries!!&quot;?

On the day the LP or ConstP (or a combination) have a majority anywhere in DC, the wheels stop rolling.  Oh, happy day!

This illustrates more perfectly than any other scenario why it&#039;s a fool&#039;s errand for people who want small gov&#039;t to vote for Rs or Ds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers are correct; the conclusion is not.</p>
<p>Any party with a majority in either house can STOP things from happening and that&#8217;s nearly as good as &#8220;rolling back bad legislation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Consider what happens if ONE house declines to pass the budget resolution.  Can you spell &#8220;OMG, we don&#8217;t have any money to do ANYTHING, even pay our own salaries!!&#8221;?</p>
<p>On the day the LP or ConstP (or a combination) have a majority anywhere in DC, the wheels stop rolling.  Oh, happy day!</p>
<p>This illustrates more perfectly than any other scenario why it&#8217;s a fool&#8217;s errand for people who want small gov&#8217;t to vote for Rs or Ds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice analysis.  Concise but informative.  Now what are the odds that the Democrats already have that figured and have or will deploy their troops to &quot;protect&quot; the polling places against angry racist white voters?  How about encouraging more voting by felons, the deceased and cartoon characters?  How about throwing out absentee ballots not likely to be for the Dems; e.g., military voters?  How about just plain not counting votes for Republicans, in those places where the vote-counting is largely in the hands of Dems?  Remember that it usually doesn&#039;t take massive fraud to win elections:  see what less than 400 felons did for &#039;Senator&#039; Giggles from Minnesota.  Plus election contests and whatever other nonsense they can dream up.  Imagine if the election of all the Republican House members were to be held up for as many months as the Minnesota Senate race last election?  All the losing Dem Reps would keep their seats because the applicable laws all have some version of &quot;...until their replacement is elected and qualified...&quot;.  Yep, coupled with an Attorney General&#039;s Civil Right Office that point-blank refuses to investigate voting irregularities against whites because, &quot;...what does that have to do with getting out the minority vote...&quot; and we could see a really swell election.  And if you think &#039;10 is going to be fun, wait for 2012, when the President&#039;s office is on the line.  Good times, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis.  Concise but informative.  Now what are the odds that the Democrats already have that figured and have or will deploy their troops to &#8220;protect&#8221; the polling places against angry racist white voters?  How about encouraging more voting by felons, the deceased and cartoon characters?  How about throwing out absentee ballots not likely to be for the Dems; e.g., military voters?  How about just plain not counting votes for Republicans, in those places where the vote-counting is largely in the hands of Dems?  Remember that it usually doesn&#8217;t take massive fraud to win elections:  see what less than 400 felons did for &#8216;Senator&#8217; Giggles from Minnesota.  Plus election contests and whatever other nonsense they can dream up.  Imagine if the election of all the Republican House members were to be held up for as many months as the Minnesota Senate race last election?  All the losing Dem Reps would keep their seats because the applicable laws all have some version of &#8220;&#8230;until their replacement is elected and qualified&#8230;&#8221;.  Yep, coupled with an Attorney General&#8217;s Civil Right Office that point-blank refuses to investigate voting irregularities against whites because, &#8220;&#8230;what does that have to do with getting out the minority vote&#8230;&#8221; and we could see a really swell election.  And if you think &#8217;10 is going to be fun, wait for 2012, when the President&#8217;s office is on the line.  Good times, eh?</p>
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