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		<title>By: Michael O. Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/09/08/fidel-castros-incredible-revelations/#comment-74504</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael O. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hugo Chavez is an entertaining showman all of his own making.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo Chavez is an entertaining showman all of his own making.</p>
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		<title>By: Procopius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then again I could be incredibly naive. The simple fact of the matter might be that the long term US hostility toward Cuba influenced an upstart Chavez, who in turn pointed his interest toward China to enter long term trade negotiations.  And China is simply letting their own influence very slowly simmer until they themselves gain true USSR-like military power projection capability to use Venezuela in a similar fashion that the USSR used Cuba.

The only problem with this that I see, is that it would likely enter a very similar Superpower Impasse like what we saw with the USSR/Cuba.  A script is eventually written that makes Venezuela &quot;Perpetual Enemy To Us&quot; but in real life, it&#039;s all a planned military and diplomatic standoff.

(*while to the US public, it&#039;s supposed to be all serious and we better pay some money to help it out*)

But unlike the USSR/Cuba situation, Venezuela actually has something to give other nations, and not only that, Venezuela owns a major oil corporation that operates in the US.  This is a much more convoluted situation to be sure.

At any rate, all that makes it real hard to determine &quot;Who Writes Their Great Speeches?&quot;  Is it simply some Chinese guy or some globalist, or is much of it the man himself?  To me, it seems on the surface that it is the man himself, which is why I like the speeches so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again I could be incredibly naive. The simple fact of the matter might be that the long term US hostility toward Cuba influenced an upstart Chavez, who in turn pointed his interest toward China to enter long term trade negotiations.  And China is simply letting their own influence very slowly simmer until they themselves gain true USSR-like military power projection capability to use Venezuela in a similar fashion that the USSR used Cuba.</p>
<p>The only problem with this that I see, is that it would likely enter a very similar Superpower Impasse like what we saw with the USSR/Cuba.  A script is eventually written that makes Venezuela &#8220;Perpetual Enemy To Us&#8221; but in real life, it&#8217;s all a planned military and diplomatic standoff.</p>
<p>(*while to the US public, it&#8217;s supposed to be all serious and we better pay some money to help it out*)</p>
<p>But unlike the USSR/Cuba situation, Venezuela actually has something to give other nations, and not only that, Venezuela owns a major oil corporation that operates in the US.  This is a much more convoluted situation to be sure.</p>
<p>At any rate, all that makes it real hard to determine &#8220;Who Writes Their Great Speeches?&#8221;  Is it simply some Chinese guy or some globalist, or is much of it the man himself?  To me, it seems on the surface that it is the man himself, which is why I like the speeches so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Procopius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t want to sound like I habitually denigrate Castro, even though that&#039;s exactly how I sounded.  I just can&#039;t let an assertion that Castro was somehow a super-human one man band, manning the fort against a superpower all on his own etc etc.  Yay communism on-my-own and all that.  I think the USSR assistance should never be overlooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t want to sound like I habitually denigrate Castro, even though that&#8217;s exactly how I sounded.  I just can&#8217;t let an assertion that Castro was somehow a super-human one man band, manning the fort against a superpower all on his own etc etc.  Yay communism on-my-own and all that.  I think the USSR assistance should never be overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Procopius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well first I&#039;ll respond to your observation on Castro&#039;s longevity in the face of U.S. opposition to him:

I don&#039;t think the US policymakers ever truly cared about Cuba beyond the Bay of Pigs days.  They spent and wasted a lot of time and money afterward keeping embargoes in place over the decades, making new ones, making new policies regarding Cuba etc.  But they stopped wanting to outright kill him after the seminal BoP assault.  This was probably first a truce with USSR on the Castro situation, and then later it after the USSR days, it was more like &quot;meh...&quot;

As to Chavez&#039;s USSR support: maybe in his very early days?  It&#039;s nothing like the continued throughout-his-rule bankrolling Castro got.  As for China, that is trade.  It&#039;s not the same as &quot;hi, we&#039;re going to bankroll you just so you can sit and thumb your nose off the Florida coast you whole life.&quot;  Yeah... Chavez&#039;s country actually has stuff other people want, which is a luxury Castro did not have.

All in all, regardless of either man&#039;s situations, their speeches throughout their lives were actually awesome.  They have been packed full of what *seems* to be initial gut philosophy, and -that- is why I find both Castro and Chavez speeches to be so valuable on their own merit.  They lack a careful think-tank scripting that lends a really unique aspect compared to Western nation leadership speeches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well first I&#8217;ll respond to your observation on Castro&#8217;s longevity in the face of U.S. opposition to him:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the US policymakers ever truly cared about Cuba beyond the Bay of Pigs days.  They spent and wasted a lot of time and money afterward keeping embargoes in place over the decades, making new ones, making new policies regarding Cuba etc.  But they stopped wanting to outright kill him after the seminal BoP assault.  This was probably first a truce with USSR on the Castro situation, and then later it after the USSR days, it was more like &#8220;meh&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>As to Chavez&#8217;s USSR support: maybe in his very early days?  It&#8217;s nothing like the continued throughout-his-rule bankrolling Castro got.  As for China, that is trade.  It&#8217;s not the same as &#8220;hi, we&#8217;re going to bankroll you just so you can sit and thumb your nose off the Florida coast you whole life.&#8221;  Yeah&#8230; Chavez&#8217;s country actually has stuff other people want, which is a luxury Castro did not have.</p>
<p>All in all, regardless of either man&#8217;s situations, their speeches throughout their lives were actually awesome.  They have been packed full of what *seems* to be initial gut philosophy, and -that- is why I find both Castro and Chavez speeches to be so valuable on their own merit.  They lack a careful think-tank scripting that lends a really unique aspect compared to Western nation leadership speeches.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Procopius,

&quot;Chavez&quot; may be the right answer.

Then again, maybe not. He&#039;s been propped up by Cuba, post-Soviet Russia and especially China (through both trade and direct aid in the tens of billions) ... a pretty good post-Soviet reconstruction of the same Soviet model that propped up Castro.

Once again, I&#039;m not an admirer of Castro, but think of it this way:

It took a little over &lt;em&gt;three years&lt;/em&gt; for the US to defeat Dai Nippon and the Third Reich simultaneously. The ringleaders of both regimes killed themselves or got their necks stretched (excepting Hirohito, who was re-defined to a non-political status).

Little Fidel&#039;s been sitting 90 miles off the US coast, flipping Washington the bird regularly, for &lt;em&gt;50&lt;/em&gt; years. He will likely die of old age, and it&#039;s starting to look like the regime he founded may be re-defined on his terms and his say-so, rather than on the basis of external pressure or internal collapse. That&#039;s no small thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Procopius,</p>
<p>&#8220;Chavez&#8221; may be the right answer.</p>
<p>Then again, maybe not. He&#8217;s been propped up by Cuba, post-Soviet Russia and especially China (through both trade and direct aid in the tens of billions) &#8230; a pretty good post-Soviet reconstruction of the same Soviet model that propped up Castro.</p>
<p>Once again, I&#8217;m not an admirer of Castro, but think of it this way:</p>
<p>It took a little over <em>three years</em> for the US to defeat Dai Nippon and the Third Reich simultaneously. The ringleaders of both regimes killed themselves or got their necks stretched (excepting Hirohito, who was re-defined to a non-political status).</p>
<p>Little Fidel&#8217;s been sitting 90 miles off the US coast, flipping Washington the bird regularly, for <em>50</em> years. He will likely die of old age, and it&#8217;s starting to look like the regime he founded may be re-defined on his terms and his say-so, rather than on the basis of external pressure or internal collapse. That&#8217;s no small thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Procopius</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2010/09/08/fidel-castros-incredible-revelations/#comment-74479</link>
		<dc:creator>Procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess an answer to your question would be Chavez?  That sounds really strange saying that, because I never really thought about it before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess an answer to your question would be Chavez?  That sounds really strange saying that, because I never really thought about it before.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Procopius,

Yes, he held it together with USSR $$$. Your point? Name a Caribbean or Latin American strongman who DIDN&#039;T hold it together with either USSR or US $$$. Castro outlasted them all -- Somoza, Ortega, Pinochet, the Duvaliers, Torijosa, Noriega, et al.

Not to mention all three Kennedy brothers, Nixon and Reagan.

I don&#039;t have to like the sonofabitch to admit that he racked up some bragging rights for endurance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Procopius,</p>
<p>Yes, he held it together with USSR $$$. Your point? Name a Caribbean or Latin American strongman who DIDN&#8217;T hold it together with either USSR or US $$$. Castro outlasted them all &#8212; Somoza, Ortega, Pinochet, the Duvaliers, Torijosa, Noriega, et al.</p>
<p>Not to mention all three Kennedy brothers, Nixon and Reagan.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to like the sonofabitch to admit that he racked up some bragging rights for endurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Procopius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[heh, &quot;held it together&quot; for the vast majority of those 50 years with USSR $$$, let that not be forgotten.  And that&#039;s not to say then that that United States is an Angel of All That Is Right by comparison, but don&#039;t pretend that Castro held that country together by his good graces alone.

Ousting Batista, that was his finest, and real, achievement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, &#8220;held it together&#8221; for the vast majority of those 50 years with USSR $$$, let that not be forgotten.  And that&#8217;s not to say then that that United States is an Angel of All That Is Right by comparison, but don&#8217;t pretend that Castro held that country together by his good graces alone.</p>
<p>Ousting Batista, that was his finest, and real, achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally agree with what you just said. That parallels in many ways the position of Gorbachev during the 1980s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally agree with what you just said. That parallels in many ways the position of Gorbachev during the 1980s.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

You write:

&quot;Fidel Castro is going to have to act along with his words.&quot;

Well, no ... and as a matter of fact that&#039;s the entire point.

When he was formally The Man, too much was always at stake for him to risk rocking the boat he&#039;d launched.

His own head was on the line if the revolutionists he&#039;d empowered turned against him; and assuming he believed himself to have been acting rightly and even necessarily for the most part, the things he had accomplished were on the line, too.

Now that he&#039;s putatively retired -- obviously still involved but no longer &quot;in charge&quot; -- he&#039;s free to ... well, revise and extend his remarks. His legacy/reputation is secure. No matter what happens next, he&#039;ll always be the guy who overthrew Batista, established socialism in Cuba, held it together for 50 years, and passed the baton on his own terms.

Now, he can change directions -- and someone else (Raul, whoever) gets to deal with the fallout. If things go to shit, hey, he was just some guy talking. If, on the other hand, the people respond to what he&#039;s saying and Cuba ends up substantially more free, he gets a big piece of the credit for that too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>You write:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fidel Castro is going to have to act along with his words.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no &#8230; and as a matter of fact that&#8217;s the entire point.</p>
<p>When he was formally The Man, too much was always at stake for him to risk rocking the boat he&#8217;d launched.</p>
<p>His own head was on the line if the revolutionists he&#8217;d empowered turned against him; and assuming he believed himself to have been acting rightly and even necessarily for the most part, the things he had accomplished were on the line, too.</p>
<p>Now that he&#8217;s putatively retired &#8212; obviously still involved but no longer &#8220;in charge&#8221; &#8212; he&#8217;s free to &#8230; well, revise and extend his remarks. His legacy/reputation is secure. No matter what happens next, he&#8217;ll always be the guy who overthrew Batista, established socialism in Cuba, held it together for 50 years, and passed the baton on his own terms.</p>
<p>Now, he can change directions &#8212; and someone else (Raul, whoever) gets to deal with the fallout. If things go to shit, hey, he was just some guy talking. If, on the other hand, the people respond to what he&#8217;s saying and Cuba ends up substantially more free, he gets a big piece of the credit for that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed it is, Stephen. Conservative Mexican President Calderon also said he&#039;s willing to consider marijuana legalization. The world is changing its axis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is, Stephen. Conservative Mexican President Calderon also said he&#8217;s willing to consider marijuana legalization. The world is changing its axis.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe our policy makers should actually listen to what Castro has to say.

Wow, I wouldn&#039;t have ever imagined that I would ever write something like that; the world sure is changing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe our policy makers should actually listen to what Castro has to say.</p>
<p>Wow, I wouldn&#8217;t have ever imagined that I would ever write something like that; the world sure is changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: FlutterDrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlutterDrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just shared a link to this blog with the community at bleditor.com. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just shared a link to this blog with the community at bleditor.com. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I deleted that when I realized it was a moment of personal dyslexia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I deleted that when I realized it was a moment of personal dyslexia.</p>
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