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	<title>Comments on: Gov.  Pat Quinn to Decide Fate of the Death Penalty in Illinois</title>
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		<title>By: Justin Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something worth noting is the rate of paternity fraud - which often times has the same consequences as a criminal conviction.  What&#039;s different about being falsely designated by courts (often times without even the opportunity to defend one&#039;s self) is that the judgment is irreversible in many cases.  Unlike with criminal convictions, courts are, in many cases, barred from rescinding orders or setting aside the consequences of paternity orders.  The consequences of paternity fraud are often times as devastating as a criminal conviction and sometimes even result in a criminal conviction.

It&#039;s a problem that nobody likes to talk about (The Innocence Project and the ACLU (both of which do a great job) refuse to even touch this issue).  Legislatures and governors refuse to do anything about this issue and courts are powerless to do anything about this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something worth noting is the rate of paternity fraud &#8211; which often times has the same consequences as a criminal conviction.  What&#8217;s different about being falsely designated by courts (often times without even the opportunity to defend one&#8217;s self) is that the judgment is irreversible in many cases.  Unlike with criminal convictions, courts are, in many cases, barred from rescinding orders or setting aside the consequences of paternity orders.  The consequences of paternity fraud are often times as devastating as a criminal conviction and sometimes even result in a criminal conviction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a problem that nobody likes to talk about (The Innocence Project and the ACLU (both of which do a great job) refuse to even touch this issue).  Legislatures and governors refuse to do anything about this issue and courts are powerless to do anything about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. T, I get your point and I agree with you about wrongful convictions generally. I have dealt with wrongful convictions for non-death penalty cases as well on a fairly frequent basis here if you want to take a peek at the archives. 

I suppose the reason why I focus so much on the death penalty is because death is irreversible. Sure, I realize the wrongfully convicted can never get their lost time back but I do believe that generous compensation by the state would help and hopefully lead to fewer wrongful convictions. 

I would also like to point out that sometimes interrogators use the threat of the death penalty to coerce confessions from people – even false confessions. I recently watched a “Frontline” documentary about this one case were some 8 (I think it was 8) men were falsely convicted for a rape and murder. After many hours of interrogation, most of them cracked. The prosecutor would say things like “if you don’t confess, and you are convicted, you will get the death penalty…if you cooperate, we will take the death penalty off the table.” It was a very fascinating documentary to be sure...hopefully I’ll get around to writing about this case sometime. 

But yes, even one day of someone doing time for a crime s/he did not commit is too long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. T, I get your point and I agree with you about wrongful convictions generally. I have dealt with wrongful convictions for non-death penalty cases as well on a fairly frequent basis here if you want to take a peek at the archives. </p>
<p>I suppose the reason why I focus so much on the death penalty is because death is irreversible. Sure, I realize the wrongfully convicted can never get their lost time back but I do believe that generous compensation by the state would help and hopefully lead to fewer wrongful convictions. </p>
<p>I would also like to point out that sometimes interrogators use the threat of the death penalty to coerce confessions from people – even false confessions. I recently watched a “Frontline” documentary about this one case were some 8 (I think it was 8) men were falsely convicted for a rape and murder. After many hours of interrogation, most of them cracked. The prosecutor would say things like “if you don’t confess, and you are convicted, you will get the death penalty…if you cooperate, we will take the death penalty off the table.” It was a very fascinating documentary to be sure&#8230;hopefully I’ll get around to writing about this case sometime. </p>
<p>But yes, even one day of someone doing time for a crime s/he did not commit is too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fail to understand the linkage of wrongful convictions solely to the death penalty. If there have been hundreds of wrongful convictions in death penalty cases, then there probably have been thousands of wrongful convictions that resulted in lesser sentences. Is fifty years in prison for a crime one didn&#039;t commit significantly less bad than ten years on death row and an execution? Shouldn&#039;t we be looking for wrongful convictions for all crimes and all penalties? Focusing solely on death penalty cases abandons other wrongly convicted persons who may spend decades in prison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to understand the linkage of wrongful convictions solely to the death penalty. If there have been hundreds of wrongful convictions in death penalty cases, then there probably have been thousands of wrongful convictions that resulted in lesser sentences. Is fifty years in prison for a crime one didn&#8217;t commit significantly less bad than ten years on death row and an execution? Shouldn&#8217;t we be looking for wrongful convictions for all crimes and all penalties? Focusing solely on death penalty cases abandons other wrongly convicted persons who may spend decades in prison.</p>
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