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		<title>By: procopius</title>
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		<dc:creator>procopius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your premise could be easily applied to libertarians themselves, or liberals, or what-have-you.

To take a &quot;libertarian&quot; e.g., they hate borders, hate protectionism, hate taxes, hate gun control.  But take you average &quot;Real Life Living&quot; libertarian on the average local/state tax initiative, if it is worded and advertised well enough he will vote for it.  Ask that same person if we should dismantle the social support umbrella of programs, he would say &quot;in theory yes&quot; but instantly rationalize &quot;why they can&#039;t just go away&quot;.  And then you have the hilarious &quot;national defense libertarian&quot;.   The whole thing is just a huge laugh.

The same can be applied to any other political identification.  It&#039;s a matter of both normalcy bias, and that of self-compromising of principles/practice.  I realized this and have pretty much distanced myself from political identification and political expectation over the last couple of years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your premise could be easily applied to libertarians themselves, or liberals, or what-have-you.</p>
<p>To take a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; e.g., they hate borders, hate protectionism, hate taxes, hate gun control.  But take you average &#8220;Real Life Living&#8221; libertarian on the average local/state tax initiative, if it is worded and advertised well enough he will vote for it.  Ask that same person if we should dismantle the social support umbrella of programs, he would say &#8220;in theory yes&#8221; but instantly rationalize &#8220;why they can&#8217;t just go away&#8221;.  And then you have the hilarious &#8220;national defense libertarian&#8221;.   The whole thing is just a huge laugh.</p>
<p>The same can be applied to any other political identification.  It&#8217;s a matter of both normalcy bias, and that of self-compromising of principles/practice.  I realized this and have pretty much distanced myself from political identification and political expectation over the last couple of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas:

I think it’s fair to say that there are many “flavors of tea” in the Tea Party movement. I believe the movement was started by grass roots true believers in small government but I think a whole lot of big government astroturfers have since joined and distorted the message. How did Sarah Palin become a ‘leader’ of the Tea Party movement? 

The article from where I got this quote stated that 52% of Tea Partiers don’t support gay marriage nor civil unions. Others are anti-free trade and probably wouldn’t have the slightest clue who Milton Friedman was.  

How many really want to end the war on (some) drugs?

How many want to stop sending troops everywhere for the sake of nation building and empire building? 

What about the sacred cows of Defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security?

I think the next few years are going to be very interesting for the Tea Party. Will they hold their candidates accountable if they fail to do as they promised in the 112th Congress? Who will they support for 2012?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas:</p>
<p>I think it’s fair to say that there are many “flavors of tea” in the Tea Party movement. I believe the movement was started by grass roots true believers in small government but I think a whole lot of big government astroturfers have since joined and distorted the message. How did Sarah Palin become a ‘leader’ of the Tea Party movement? </p>
<p>The article from where I got this quote stated that 52% of Tea Partiers don’t support gay marriage nor civil unions. Others are anti-free trade and probably wouldn’t have the slightest clue who Milton Friedman was.  </p>
<p>How many really want to end the war on (some) drugs?</p>
<p>How many want to stop sending troops everywhere for the sake of nation building and empire building? </p>
<p>What about the sacred cows of Defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security?</p>
<p>I think the next few years are going to be very interesting for the Tea Party. Will they hold their candidates accountable if they fail to do as they promised in the 112th Congress? Who will they support for 2012?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You speak as if you are able to discern what the Tea Party stands for on an entire pltform of issues. Stop.  There are many voices and opinions within the movement.  Many of the local Tea Party groups arose from out of the Ron Paul campaign are are itching to campaign for Dr. Paul as soon as he chooses to run in 2012.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You speak as if you are able to discern what the Tea Party stands for on an entire pltform of issues. Stop.  There are many voices and opinions within the movement.  Many of the local Tea Party groups arose from out of the Ron Paul campaign are are itching to campaign for Dr. Paul as soon as he chooses to run in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put… I’ve heard Gary Johnson say much the same thing about the tea party:  They want to slash-and-burn federal spending, but don’t want to touch defense, SS or Medicare.

I’ve actually found Palinites to be open minded on Marijuana policy.  And the Ron Paul minority of tea partiers are of course generally libertarian on this issue.  The ones that hoot at rallies are the talk radio conservatives who see everything as an Us vs. Them cultural issue (Pot: grrr…Hippies!)

Gary Johnson is the one candidate who is closest to Palin and the tea party on spending (his record blows Palin’s away, in fact), so I remain optimistic that he can get a following.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put… I’ve heard Gary Johnson say much the same thing about the tea party:  They want to slash-and-burn federal spending, but don’t want to touch defense, SS or Medicare.</p>
<p>I’ve actually found Palinites to be open minded on Marijuana policy.  And the Ron Paul minority of tea partiers are of course generally libertarian on this issue.  The ones that hoot at rallies are the talk radio conservatives who see everything as an Us vs. Them cultural issue (Pot: grrr…Hippies!)</p>
<p>Gary Johnson is the one candidate who is closest to Palin and the tea party on spending (his record blows Palin’s away, in fact), so I remain optimistic that he can get a following.</p>
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