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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s The Problem, Revenue Or Spending?</title>
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		<title>By: MamaLiberty</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2011/04/20/whats-the-problem-revenue-or-spending/#comment-77198</link>
		<dc:creator>MamaLiberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stephenwv, ever try to &quot;downsize&quot; a tornado?

The only legitimate &quot;government&quot; is self government in voluntary cooperation with others. 

The key is voluntary association and elimination of coercion and theft. If people want it, they will find a way to do it and pay for it. There is no rational reason to steal from their neighbors. 

But ANY &quot;government&quot; given ANY power of coercion and theft (tax by ANY name) will most certainly use it to further their power and perks. It is simply human nature.

When some people are given ANY power over others against their will, tyranny is inevitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stephenwv, ever try to &#8220;downsize&#8221; a tornado?</p>
<p>The only legitimate &#8220;government&#8221; is self government in voluntary cooperation with others. </p>
<p>The key is voluntary association and elimination of coercion and theft. If people want it, they will find a way to do it and pay for it. There is no rational reason to steal from their neighbors. </p>
<p>But ANY &#8220;government&#8221; given ANY power of coercion and theft (tax by ANY name) will most certainly use it to further their power and perks. It is simply human nature.</p>
<p>When some people are given ANY power over others against their will, tyranny is inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaLiberty</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2011/04/20/whats-the-problem-revenue-or-spending/#comment-77109</link>
		<dc:creator>MamaLiberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of this misses the ONLY real problem... the theft. 

Without the power to steal, both directly and via regulation, there would be no overspending by any &quot;government.&quot;

The power to tax is the power to destroy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this misses the ONLY real problem&#8230; the theft. </p>
<p>Without the power to steal, both directly and via regulation, there would be no overspending by any &#8220;government.&#8221;</p>
<p>The power to tax is the power to destroy.</p>
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		<title>By: stephenwv</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2011/04/20/whats-the-problem-revenue-or-spending/#comment-77102</link>
		<dc:creator>stephenwv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone agrees that it takes more consumer spending to drive the economy, create jobs, economic expansion and prosperity. This is the consumer demand driven economy. The economy ONLY grows as a profit is created. Profit is the added value that expands the economy to create more jobs. 

People in the private sector have jobs that create added value to the economy. Without this added value/profit there is no growth in the economy.   No job creation.   Private sector wages, paid for added value,  are the source of all buying power to drive the economy, create jobs and prosperity. 

Taxes/government spending, reduces this economic growth.  It is an inefficient wealth transfer.

 Taxes, transfer my money, that I could spend, to pay value added workers, and pays people (not all are even workers), who create no products or services that any consumer buys to drive the economy.      When is the last time you decided to buy some government with your after tax dollars? &quot;I think I&#039;ll buy 2 pieces of government today.&quot;   Only government buys what government dishes out.  No value is added to the economy.

The solution for a robust economic recovery, with private sector job growth, is leaving more money with the private sector workers to buy goods and services that will pay the labor of productive private sector workers.   This labor, not government labor, adds value to the economy, creates jobs, and prosperity. 

 A certain amount of government is required to assure a smooth functioning society. That is a given.
The government creates a false economy by printing and borrowing money (which actually creates more problems of inflation, devaluation of the dollar, a lowering of the standard of living, and, as we shall see in the future,  a slowing/shrinking/impediment/drag on economic growth as money is taken from the consumer to pay off the debt.)

Currently government is growing. This downsizes the private sector worker. This downsizes the economy.

Instead:
Downsize the government. Grow the People. Grow the economy, create productive jobs and prosperity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone agrees that it takes more consumer spending to drive the economy, create jobs, economic expansion and prosperity. This is the consumer demand driven economy. The economy ONLY grows as a profit is created. Profit is the added value that expands the economy to create more jobs. </p>
<p>People in the private sector have jobs that create added value to the economy. Without this added value/profit there is no growth in the economy.   No job creation.   Private sector wages, paid for added value,  are the source of all buying power to drive the economy, create jobs and prosperity. </p>
<p>Taxes/government spending, reduces this economic growth.  It is an inefficient wealth transfer.</p>
<p> Taxes, transfer my money, that I could spend, to pay value added workers, and pays people (not all are even workers), who create no products or services that any consumer buys to drive the economy.      When is the last time you decided to buy some government with your after tax dollars? &#8220;I think I&#8217;ll buy 2 pieces of government today.&#8221;   Only government buys what government dishes out.  No value is added to the economy.</p>
<p>The solution for a robust economic recovery, with private sector job growth, is leaving more money with the private sector workers to buy goods and services that will pay the labor of productive private sector workers.   This labor, not government labor, adds value to the economy, creates jobs, and prosperity. </p>
<p> A certain amount of government is required to assure a smooth functioning society. That is a given.<br />
The government creates a false economy by printing and borrowing money (which actually creates more problems of inflation, devaluation of the dollar, a lowering of the standard of living, and, as we shall see in the future,  a slowing/shrinking/impediment/drag on economic growth as money is taken from the consumer to pay off the debt.)</p>
<p>Currently government is growing. This downsizes the private sector worker. This downsizes the economy.</p>
<p>Instead:<br />
Downsize the government. Grow the People. Grow the economy, create productive jobs and prosperity.</p>
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