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	<title>Comments on: “Common Sense” Legislation to Curb Gun Violence?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91923</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and also, in case it wasn&#039;t obvious, legislation has essentially no effect on violence either. 

You can&#039;t make something already illegal, illegal-er. 

The ILLUSION of being able to do something is comforting to people, who are willing to accept symbols and intentions as more important than reality... 

Telologists of all stripes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and also, in case it wasn&#8217;t obvious, legislation has essentially no effect on violence either. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t make something already illegal, illegal-er. </p>
<p>The ILLUSION of being able to do something is comforting to people, who are willing to accept symbols and intentions as more important than reality&#8230; </p>
<p>Telologists of all stripes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91922</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;d like to suggest here that the number and type of weapons in the world, has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of violence in the world. 

People do violence, not objects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d like to suggest here that the number and type of weapons in the world, has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of violence in the world. </p>
<p>People do violence, not objects.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91918</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m not sure that we disagree much here. I think most “common sense” gun laws are, at best “feel good” legislation and at worst counterproductive/anti-liberty.   

I chose my words carefully when I said “common sense solutions of our own.” This was not meant to suggest more gun control. The answer may well be “more guns, less crime” (an argument I’m quite sympathetic to) and less restrictive gun laws. 

Or maybe the answer is that the current level of violence is the bottom and there isn’t much else can be done to reduce the violence any further. Despite what we hear from the MSM, violent crime is actually down. This includes school shootings and mass shootings overall. (as &lt;a href=”http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2012/07/25/random-acts-of-violence-can-be-mitigated-but-not-prevented/” rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; I’ve mentioned before&lt;/a&gt;, every school is due to have some sort of killing…once every 12,000 years). 

This is the question we should be asking and attempting to answer when contemplating any legislation:

“ If acts of violence cannot be prevented regardless of the security measures or public policy reforms, the question necessarily becomes: just how much risk of being a victim of a violent act are we willing to tolerate and at what cost?”

Everything has a cost to consider. How much money are we willing to spend to reduce the risk, how much of our privacy/civil liberties are we willing to surrender, among others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not sure that we disagree much here. I think most “common sense” gun laws are, at best “feel good” legislation and at worst counterproductive/anti-liberty.   </p>
<p>I chose my words carefully when I said “common sense solutions of our own.” This was not meant to suggest more gun control. The answer may well be “more guns, less crime” (an argument I’m quite sympathetic to) and less restrictive gun laws. </p>
<p>Or maybe the answer is that the current level of violence is the bottom and there isn’t much else can be done to reduce the violence any further. Despite what we hear from the MSM, violent crime is actually down. This includes school shootings and mass shootings overall. (as <a href=”http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2012/07/25/random-acts-of-violence-can-be-mitigated-but-not-prevented/” rel="nofollow"> I’ve mentioned before</a>, every school is due to have some sort of killing…once every 12,000 years). </p>
<p>This is the question we should be asking and attempting to answer when contemplating any legislation:</p>
<p>“ If acts of violence cannot be prevented regardless of the security measures or public policy reforms, the question necessarily becomes: just how much risk of being a victim of a violent act are we willing to tolerate and at what cost?”</p>
<p>Everything has a cost to consider. How much money are we willing to spend to reduce the risk, how much of our privacy/civil liberties are we willing to surrender, among others.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91765</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sephen 

First thing, beyond all this discussion, is that we don&#039;t need any more gun control, we need less. 

Since 1968 there have been non-sensical laws piled on top of non-sensical laws, all promoted as &quot;common sense gun laws&quot;; almost all of them anything but. 

By what logic do you come to a different conclusion?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sephen </p>
<p>First thing, beyond all this discussion, is that we don&#8217;t need any more gun control, we need less. </p>
<p>Since 1968 there have been non-sensical laws piled on top of non-sensical laws, all promoted as &#8220;common sense gun laws&#8221;; almost all of them anything but. </p>
<p>By what logic do you come to a different conclusion?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91756</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, I certainly understand your concerns about expanding the background checks. I don’t happen to know how extensive the background checks are if you buy from a store; maybe you can enlighten me as to what (if any) records of the purchase go into a government database and what records the checker has access to.  

It seems to me that there should be a way to do a background check without registering the gun. It seems to me that there should be a way to go to a third party who can run the background check and create a receipt for both the buyer and the seller that certifies that the background check was successfully completed. This piece of paper would be sort of a CYA for the seller if that particular gun was later found at a crime scene (ex. The cops knock on your door to ask you questions about a gun that was found at a crime scene that you had purchased from a store or another individual. You then show the detective your receipt which has the name of the person you sold to and the cops move on their merry way). In theory, it should protect the buyer from buying a hot gun as the seller wouldn’t want his name on that piece of paper. 

Will the background check plan be this simple when all is said and done? Probably not. If their plan is to register all firearms being sold in a searchable database, that’s a whole other story and a non-starter as far as I’m concerned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I certainly understand your concerns about expanding the background checks. I don’t happen to know how extensive the background checks are if you buy from a store; maybe you can enlighten me as to what (if any) records of the purchase go into a government database and what records the checker has access to.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that there should be a way to do a background check without registering the gun. It seems to me that there should be a way to go to a third party who can run the background check and create a receipt for both the buyer and the seller that certifies that the background check was successfully completed. This piece of paper would be sort of a CYA for the seller if that particular gun was later found at a crime scene (ex. The cops knock on your door to ask you questions about a gun that was found at a crime scene that you had purchased from a store or another individual. You then show the detective your receipt which has the name of the person you sold to and the cops move on their merry way). In theory, it should protect the buyer from buying a hot gun as the seller wouldn’t want his name on that piece of paper. </p>
<p>Will the background check plan be this simple when all is said and done? Probably not. If their plan is to register all firearms being sold in a searchable database, that’s a whole other story and a non-starter as far as I’m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2013/01/17/common-sense-legislation-to-curb-gun-violence/#comment-91708</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only way to enforce &quot;person to person background checks&quot; is to ban all private sales of firearms, require all sales go through a federally licensed firearms dealer, and register all firearms and all firearms owners. 

So no, it&#039;s not a good idea in principle or in practice.

Either you own your own property, and can dispose of it as you wish, or you can&#039;t.

If you can own your own properly, and dispose of it as you wish, you are a free man.

If you cannot own and dispose of your own properly as you wish, you are not a free man... you ARE property.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to enforce &#8220;person to person background checks&#8221; is to ban all private sales of firearms, require all sales go through a federally licensed firearms dealer, and register all firearms and all firearms owners. </p>
<p>So no, it&#8217;s not a good idea in principle or in practice.</p>
<p>Either you own your own property, and can dispose of it as you wish, or you can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you can own your own properly, and dispose of it as you wish, you are a free man.</p>
<p>If you cannot own and dispose of your own properly as you wish, you are not a free man&#8230; you ARE property.</p>
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